observer Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Well it seems we're being warned in advance, that our future of austerity will involve cuts and job losses in the NHS - so our choice will be - who's going to use the knife more sensitively?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianR Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 most governement funded organisations are overfunded and bloated adminstarively. I remeber Gerry Robinson doing a bit on the NHS for the BBC and he was astounded by the inefficency. Got to be room for custs and efficency savings. How about the final salary pension for starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Or charges for missed appointments? I arrived early for my appointment at the hospital recently, the person booked in ahead of me hadn't shown up, but rather than see me early the whole staff of the clinic stood around waiting for them,"in case they turn up at the last minute." Further enquiries informed me that if they had turned up before the end of their treatment slot they would still be seen ahead of me, and my appointment would be put back or rescheduled for another day. You couldn't make it up!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzodog Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Could start by ending services for people who are not actually ill eg alcohol reduction campains, anti-smoking campains, women who want to dismember their unborn babies, illegal drug programs, letting druggies & drunks take up beds & the time of doctors & nurses simply becuase they are drunk or drugged up Of course it won't happen because too many "interest groups" have a vested interest in the continuation of such provision. Also the socialist groups need to continually extend the services provided in order that they can shout "stop the cuts!" I worked in a Warrington hospital 25 years ago & the truth now is the same as then - the demand for health provision is unlimited - but that depends on what you define as health provision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzodog Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Check out http://www.warrington-pct.nhs.uk/ I find it interesting. There's a couple of jobs you might want to go for: #1 is community sexual health service manager - pays ?38 to ?45 grand #4 is a health trainer - pays ?15 to ?18 grand to tackle inequalities in health On the other hand they can have the solutions for free: 1/ girls keep your legs closed & boys keep it in your pants - wait until you're married 2/ gypos get yourselves proper housing, pack in the fags & cut down on the booze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rifles Posted June 10, 2009 Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 I suppose we could stop giving away money to other countries and get our own house in order first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 10, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2009 Funny you should mention that: seems the Tories have admitted they will be making cuts; but interestingly NOT in overseas development - so it seems they don't believe "charity starts at home"! Whilst it's clear, that a liberal management have/are wasting our money on trivia and gross inefficiencies exist; nothing says that a 10% cut will be confined to solely such waste and inefficiency, or that such surgical cuts would achieve the intended target. Whoever is the Government next year, will have to make radical cuts in public expenditure, the question will be, who will you trust to ensure that the burdens of this austerity are borne by the broadest shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 As if to rub salt in the wounds of those awaiting serious medical operations, it seems the number of "gender bender" ops has increased by 300%, adding ?10million to the tax-payer's bill for the NHS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted June 30, 2009 Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Governments never make cuts only savings or reduced expenditure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2009 Think we're talking about the triumph of "want" over "need" in a cash strapped enviroment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 women who want to dismember their unborn babies How very catholic of you Bonzo Complety disagree with that statment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 2, 2009 Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 Are you saying that some people aren't using abortion as a means of birth control LtKije? Talk about hiding your head in the sand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2009 If they want "a career", why don't they just have an hysterectomy?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzodog Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 women who want to dismember their unborn babies How very catholic of you Bonzo Complety disagree with that statment. Which part of the statement do you disagree with? Are you saying that unborn babies are not dismembered or that women do not want it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I disagree with the whole statment Bonzo, I am pro choice, Yep some women use abortion as birth contol so what What about rape,or for medical reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 3, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Unfortunately for the dogma of the "equal rights" brigade; male and females are bologically different; and carrying a sprog for 9 months, then providing the milk for it to suckle; tend to get in the way of a career - inconvenient I know - but a fact of life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzodog Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I disagree with the whole statment . So you are saying that abortion does not involve the dismembering of an unborn baby? Errrr ...... so what does the procedure consist of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Not at all Bonzodag, what stage abortion are you talking about. Many abortions can be done with drugs. Obs what are you on about equal rights for it has nothing to do with it. Do you agree with abortion or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzodog Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 The stage we are talking about is the one which involves dismembering an unborn baby. Do you believe that this should be for a mother to choose if she wants? To quote from Americanpregancy.org - "The fetus is rotated and forceps are used to grasp and pull the legs, shoulders and arms through the birth canal. A small incision is made at the base of the skull to allow a suction catheter inside. The catheter removes the cerebral material until the skull collapses. Then the fetus is completely removed." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Bonzodog Americanpregancy.org Is a pro anti abortion site I had never heard of it and googled it, didn't take me long to find pro choice site that slated it http://www.feministing.com/archives/010220.html This was the first I came across This is a tetchy subject and as many people disagree on faith grounds . I beleive people should have the right to choose, those people whos choice is influenced by faith I say fair enough. I do have a problem when people of that faith try to inflict it on non believers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Bonzodog Americanpregancy.org Is a pro anti abortion site I had never heard of it and googled it, didn't take me long to find pro choice site that slated it http://www.feministing.com/archives/010220.html This was the first I came across You would hardly find a pro choice site that DIDN'T slate an anti abortion site surely (pro anti abortion?? Strange way of describing it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Asperity Have you any interest in this thread or are just being a dick Why don't you read before commenting as I said I had never heard of it thats why I googled it, and I found out it was an anti abortion site I have no problem with you posting Asperity but contribute don't snipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Loo, you seem to be pro everything that the average, sensible, unbiased person is against. Do you never find it lonely in your strange world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 I have no problem with you posting LtKije, but stop talking rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted July 3, 2009 Report Share Posted July 3, 2009 Hey, if we're going to make our publicly funded services slave to minority religious dogma why not go the whole hog and just introduce sharia law right now. It's certainly no less out of touch and oppresive than Catholicism! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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