Bazj Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Mps have rejected the expenses reforms by 172 to 144 Can anyone find out how the Bliar babes (ha ha!!!) voted? Come the revolution can I be the one at the front with the Uzi please?? It was interesting to hear that the chamber was packed to bursting for this debate and vote but was practically empty for an important debate on Zimbabwe and the current killings and bloodshed over there. Mind you, I guess our hardworking politicians will have a satisfactory excuse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 It was interesting to hear that the chamber was packed to bursting for this debate and vote but was practically empty for an important debate on Zimbabwe and the current killings and bloodshed over there. Think they realise that they can effect the former matter and are, alas, powerless to do anything on the latter. Let us not forget that we were the country, that in effect, put Mugabe in power. PS not quite bursting, I did see some empty spaces...maybe those not there were out doing a "foreigner". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Well today IS Thursday, the day MPs traditionally skive off early for the weekend - oops sorry - head off to their constituencies to work hard for the electorate in their surgeries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 What an absolute disgrace. These greed driven self serving nobodies can have no sense whatsoever of the public outrage and anger at their grabbing antics. What is worse is when you read in the Times that Helen Jones was one of the M.P's behind this vote for legalised pillaging of the public purse for their own undeserving use. In politics it takes a lot to make me angry but this takes the absolute **** out of all that is decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Perhaps a poll of the worst, most ethically challenged jobs in society would show politicians to be the clear winner, well in front of journalists, lawyers, edge fund mangers and any other low life you can think of?! I'm sure, some posters will gain access (under the freedom of info act) to providing details of the expenses of OUR MPs prior to the next General Election?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted July 3, 2008 Report Share Posted July 3, 2008 Let us not forget that we were the country, that in effect, put Mugabe in power.: Wasn't really through choice, though. Even Tutu is criticising him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 It was interesting to hear that the chamber was packed to bursting for this debate and vote but was practically empty for an important debate on Zimbabwe and the current killings and bloodshed over there. Think they realise that they can effect the former matter and are, alas, powerless to do anything on the latter. Let us not forget that we were the country, that in effect, put Mugabe in power. PS not quite bursting, I did see some empty spaces...maybe those not there were out doing a "foreigner". And more accurately you were the political party in charge of Britain when we put Mugabe into power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 With cross party support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Yesterday's vote, it seems both Helens were elsewhere. Scroll to the bottom of the article, seems some MPs voted aye.....and no. http://timesonline.typepad.com/politics/2008/07/is-your-mp-on-t.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Over 30 Ministers voted against the independent recomendations to scrap the John Lewis List rip off, so much for Gordon's grip on the PLP - so much for the true nature of the majority of MPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Interesting to see Sir nicholas and Lady Ann Winterton voted to keep the list.... now I wouldn't have expected that one!!! NOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dizzy Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 How come there are no Lib Dems on the list of shame ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted July 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Do they have any MP's then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Ooooh... I don't actually know. I just presumed they probably did have some somewhere in the galaxy as they are always saying how good they are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 4, 2008 Report Share Posted July 4, 2008 Maybe the LibDems are a cleaner lot, or maybe it's because they are more often on a short term contract?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 the John Lewis List rip off, quote] Might not be so bad if it was the Argos List......suppose it could be worse it could be the Harrods List. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Helen J was teller for the ayes wasn't she? Helen S was keeping a low profile as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Presume they had a vote though? So how did they vote? If they didn't, they wouldn't be doing the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 The teller for the ayes votes for the ayes, the teller for the noes votes for the noes. So Helen J voted aye, and Helen S went into hiding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 "aye" to what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 aye to keeping their noses in the trough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahl Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 from what I have seen reported it appears there are more troughs in the top ranks of the civil service now. These so called independent people are now linked with the rotten core of politics. If we wait long enough perhaps there willb troughs for everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 The capitalist system only provides one big trough - and the objective is to nudge yourself to the front of the queue - oink! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted July 9, 2008 Report Share Posted July 9, 2008 I read that the BBC's senior executives have jumped into the trough...of taxpayer's money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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