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Yes, they are "being lifted out of poverty" by rescue charities in the Med;   with virtue signalling  Hollywood actors visiting them on board, for a photo op; doubt Richard Gere will take them back to his many homes. With TV and the social network,  the global poor can now view the rest of the world, so it's no surprise that they will seek "a better life", especially in Countries with advanced social security provision.   With corrupt Governments,  religious inspired wars, inadequate infrastructure to meet extreme weather events; their lot is not a happy one.  India has now entered the space race; it receives overseas aid from wealthy countries; but has a new ultra-wealthy class that pays little tax. Meanwhile, it has a huge population that is denied basic sanitation.   Iraq currently swelters under a 40C heatwave, but most can't afford the energy to run air conditioning.  Anyway, I digress; back to over population:  the key to population control is female education,  empowering women to decide the size of their families, but such empowerment is denied to many due to religious and cultural ignorance.  Then we have the issue of longevity,  if we have less children, who will support a growing elderly population - so that driver remains.

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42 minutes ago, Observer II said:

Yes, they are "being lifted out of poverty" by rescue charities in the Med;   with virtue signalling  Hollywood actors visiting them on board, for a photo op; doubt Richard Gere will take them back to his many homes. With TV and the social network,  the global poor can now view the rest of the world, so it's no surprise that they will seek "a better life", especially in Countries with advanced social security provision.   With corrupt Governments,  religious inspired wars, inadequate infrastructure to meet extreme weather events; their lot is not a happy one.  India has now entered the space race; it receives overseas aid from wealthy countries; but has a new ultra-wealthy class that pays little tax. Meanwhile, it has a huge population that is denied basic sanitation.   Iraq currently swelters under a 40C heatwave, but most can't afford the energy to run air conditioning.  Anyway, I digress; back to over population:  the key to population control is female education,  empowering women to decide the size of their families, but such empowerment is denied to many due to religious and cultural ignorance.  Then we have the issue of longevity,  if we have less children, who will support a growing elderly population - so that driver remains.

Make up your mind Obs, which is it - too many children being born, or not enough being born to look after the elderly?

 

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😄     It's the dilemma for future Governments;  whilst they may wish control population levels, they have to preserve a balance between young and old.  China has tried it with it's one child policy, the problem was, the Chinese prefered male offspring, which has caused a gender imbalance;  there is also in poorer countries, without advanced social security provision, the idea that children will provide parents with security in their old age.   The theoretical balance would be one new born for every death, but as reproduction is ultimately a personal matter, Governments aren't really in control.   

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2 hours ago, asperity said:

Make up your mind Obs, which is it - too many children being born, or not enough being born to look after the elderly?

 

for "look after"  see "pay for"

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On 8/10/2019 at 10:32 PM, asperity said:

Just to put your argument in some sort of perspective Obs, take the case of Ethiopia. In 1985 (remember Live Aid? When the whole of Ethiopia was supposedly starving to death) the population was 40,800,000+. In 2019 the population of Ethiopia is 110,135,000+. Either Ethiopia somehow managed to feed a rapidly increasing population or the rest of the world managed to root around their cupboards and feed a rapidly increasing population. Something doesn't add up here, but I'm pretty sure the true story isn't going to be told in the MSM (that's you BBC) anytime soon.

Ethiopia got a leader elected (I forget his name) who brought in reforms and investment and now Ethiopia is now doing quite well.

It always amazes me that Africa is so poor, with all its oil and mineral reserves, land, weather, scenery it should be very rich and a mecca for tourists. Instead it is a place for corruption and poverty. I read western leaders are reluctant to intervene in case they get accused of racism. WE had a dark president of the USA who could have took the initiative instead he went to Africa and preached gay rights.

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