observer Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Apparently, assaulting a Policeman is a criminal offence; but not so in the case of other public servants. An E-Petition has now reached Parliament, calling for such legal protection for NHS Staff; but why stop there. ? It seems to me that any assault on any public servant carrying out their lawfull duties, should be a criminal offence with a mandatory prison sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 I thought assaulting anybody was a criminal offence to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Think the term being used in Parliament is, making it "a specific offence". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Well I don't know what they're going on about. If I were to meet you in the street and gave you a slap across the chops, I could be arrested and charged with assault as the law stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 Guess there must be a difference, otherwise over 100,000 folk have wasted their time signing an e-petition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 25, 2017 Report Share Posted January 25, 2017 I could only find one petition on assault of public servants, and it only got 274 signatures. Also it is now closed. Where did you find the one you're talking about Obs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Didn't "find it"; it's arrived in Parliament and was reported on TV news a couple of nights ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Found it, although I don't know what the difference between assaulting a police officer or member of the NHS and assaulting anybody else is: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/176138 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Here's another one: seems a man has been sentenced to 5years for failing to rescue a girl who was drowning in the sea. He was charged with murder; but pleaded manslaughter by neglect. Obviously we don't know the details but, there would be some questions: 1) was it a risk to his personal safety to attempt rescue, could he even swim? 2) if the incident was witnessed by others, what were they doing in terms of rescue ? Strange ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Here's another one: seems a man has been sentenced to 5years for failing to rescue a girl who was drowning in the sea. He was charged with murder; but pleaded manslaughter by neglect. Obviously we don't know the details but, there would be some questions: 1) was it a risk to his personal safety to attempt rescue, could he even swim? 2) if the incident was witnessed by others, what were they doing in terms of rescue ? Strange ! Wasn't there a story a few years ago where two cops didn't go and save someone who was drowning because they feared for their own safety? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 26, 2017 Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 Guess there must be a difference, otherwise over 100,000 folk have wasted their time signing an e-petition. I see it was started by Nick Ferrari on a radio show, which would explain all the signatures. Some people will sign anything if a "personality" tells them to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Some people will sign anything if a "personality" tells them to. Quite true, surprised that the scammers haven't cottoned onto this phenomenon YET. Assault carrying a mandatory prison sentence. Prisons overcrowded as it is, so much so that even with the lamest of sob stories you can get a suspended sentence, you even read of offenders who have theirs extended when they have committed an offence whilst serving a suspended sentence. (he/she has had difficulties in the past but is getting his/her life back on track being the usual reason stated) You have to commit a serious crime to get sent to prison these days, like council tax evasion or the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 A sure fire way of getting locked up is to stop paying your TV licence tax apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Wasn't there a story a few years ago where two cops didn't go and save someone who was drowning because they feared for their own safety? There was Baz & what was more startling was that the water in the pond was no deeper than 3 feet even in the middle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted January 27, 2017 Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 Quite true, surprised that the scammers haven't cottoned onto this phenomenon YET. Assault carrying a mandatory prison sentence. Prisons overcrowded as it is, so much so that even with the lamest of sob stories you can get a suspended sentence, you even read of offenders who have theirs extended when they have committed an offence whilst serving a suspended sentence. (he/she has had difficulties in the past but is getting his/her life back on track being the usual reason stated) You have to commit a serious crime to get sent to prison these days, like council tax evasion or the like. The way the violence in jails was being reported yesterday, some talking head came out & said too many people were being sent to jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2017 .... and the liberal apologists are now asking for their release ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted January 28, 2017 Report Share Posted January 28, 2017 What i find confusing is that the not very old Warrington Crown Court may possibly close due to its workload being shared between Liverpool & Chester....on the other hand,only a few days ago ,a top policeman was bemoaning the increase in crime. Now you would expect our court system to be working overtime to deal with these villains if there was the means to catch them & lock them away safely. More police & more safe & secure prisons are what this country needs & give the streets back to law abiding citizens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Front page news story today... wonder if this woman will get done for criminal assault too...waste of a pizza that though http://www.warrington-worldwide.co.uk/2017/01/28/taxi-driver-assaulted-with-a-pizza/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 Think a lot depends on the pizza here dizz. if it was a whole pizza with a stuffed crust, then when hurled frisbee like, it could do some serious damage with the hot filling or even the risk of suffocation if the pizza strikes and then flops over the face . Similarly if it was a thin crust one used the same way then possible lacerations due to the thinness at the edge may occur. A segment of either would not cause as much harm unless the pointed part struck an eye, although a hard thin crust could conceivably used as a dagger. Be an interesting bit of scientific research for somebody that. Study of the pizza as a weapon, Pappa John's or Dominos, flight characteristics compared etc. Still puts a whole new slant on pizza delivery. :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 I suppose as a street weapon a pizza is a natural progression given the interest in martial arts over the last 50 years, & it is certainly a giant leap forward from the stale pork pie that sent Ernie to the great milk round in the sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 29, 2017 Report Share Posted January 29, 2017 OMG I'm sat here crying laughing after reading both your posts Evils and Davy, so funny I'm also tempted to cook the pizza that's in my freezer and hurl it at Mr Dizzy just to test out what injury one could cause.....or perhaps I'll just leave it frozen and try that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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