Bazj Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Euro MPs have backed plans for a massive 6.8% increase in European Union spending next year. Bulgarian MEP Ivailo Kalfin, the Socialist Group negotiator on the budget, insisted increases were the right step. He said: "The EU budget is different from national budgets. The EU budget is an investment tool to support long-term development and strategic European co-operation. "In fact, 94% of the EU budget is invested in the member states to create a European added value or in making sure the EU speaks with one voice on the world stage. What he actually meant was: We in Bulgaria and all the other Eastern European hangers on states want Britain to pay for our roads (while yours crumble) to pay for our schools (while yours are all falling apart) and pay for our hospitals (while you have to privatise and close yours) Now I really believe that the demands for a referendum to get us out of this money grabbing bloody boys club will escalate to the point where we have to get a vote.... please god it happens soon then we can spend OUR money on OUR debts left by Liebour and help our own people back to prosperity instead of helping a bunch of bloody foreigners :evil: :evil: :evil: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Nice one Baz, fully agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I am sure that Europe is now in a worse state than it was in the dark days of WW 2 having been lulled by 40 years of Euro slight of hand into its present state of apathy.At least in the war years every country had a national identity to fight for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Wot Baz said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 More propaganda, swallowed by the inept, the budget is proposed, and The UK and Holland have said they will veto anything other than an inflation rise, so a bit of a non story really. Something for the sheep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Just the idea that they would propose such a massive increase shows just how untouchable they think they are Kije.... They may not get 6.8% but you can bet your house on the outcome being more than 0.0% and a lot more than inflation and more than any pay rise you or I can expect this year :evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 I know for a fact I won't be getting a pay rise for at least 2 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 We will see Baz, you did the same hype last year, might be an idea to change your paper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Errm, IF every Nation in the EU are suffering austerity and consequent cuts in budgets; doesn't it follow that the EU should be taking a cut rather than any rise; starting with the gravy train in Brussels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Depends Obs, some people think spending might help get things going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Depends Obs, some people think spending might help get things going why would it kick start OUR economy by giving it to Bulgaria or Greece? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 We will see Baz, you did the same hype last year, might be an idea to change your paper and they got a 2% rise in their budget which was a lot more than most countries economies grew or a lot more than pay rises... you really need to take a long hard look at what you stick up for Kije, because from where I'm standing, the only beneficiaries appear to be the poor Eastern European countries who stand in line with their hands out waiting for the handouts to come round every month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 In the case of Greece, it would stop them going under, don't forget our banks in their infinite wisdom are up to their necks in Greese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 In the case of Greece, it would stop them going under, don't forget our banks in their infinite wisdom are up to their necks in Greese I would say they are up to their necks in s**t but that's another tale.... Our banks were heavilly in to the Icelandic banks but they went bust. I hardly think that letting Greece go bump will cause too much of a long lasting issue here..... Surely there is only so much feta cheese to invest in anyway, plus if half of the population are unemployed, surely it is up to their millionaires to cough up rather some pensioner in Grimsby having to suffer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 Not sure if its true, but I remember reading that UK banks are the second biggest investor in Greece, but it does sound about right as our banks wouldn't know a good investment if they saw one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 apparently the UK banks exposure to Greek banks amounts to about 2.2 billion euros... so in proper money about 1.6 billion pounds. made up primarily of RBS, HSBC and Barclays ......Hardly a world changing amount Kije; especially seeing as we give away about 40 times that every year to the EU.... time to pull out!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 You might want to read this http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2012/05/15/how-much-money-is-at-stake-if-greece-exits/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 not interested in the rest of the world Kije... take a look at this.... about half way down http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2011/jun/17/greece-debt-crisis-bank-exposed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 We are in a World economy, look what Lehman Brothers did to the World they went under owing €476bn.Greece owes€424 bn. Look what Lehman did to the World, could the World take another hit like that now. I don't think it could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 but we can't just keep on throwing OUR money at the problem.... Greece is done for. They should be cut loose and left to sort out their own problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 The Greeks won't change as they don't pay their taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 24, 2012 Report Share Posted October 24, 2012 ... especially their rich politicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 26, 2012 Report Share Posted October 26, 2012 Interestingly, Parliament are currently debating a private members bill, calling for the repeal of the act of Parliament that committed us to joining the EU - be interesting to discover how our MPs voted on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Seems Dave wants to get a freeze on the EU budget, but MPs want a cut. All those States that get more out of it than they put in, are gagging for a rise. So, what would you call a compromise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 1, 2012 Report Share Posted November 1, 2012 Stop giving them anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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