mbellers Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I have loved the old photos that have been posted on here over the past few months - thanks Algy! Does anyone have photos of a house on the corner of Fairfield Road & Ackers Road? Think it is called Rock Villas & William Beamont once lived there. On this photo (from 1928) you can see the house just on the right near the tennis courts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 fascinating photo. It also shows Latchford Station. Algy or/and Dizzy might be able to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 I have loved the old photos that have been posted on here over the past few months - thanks Algy! Does anyone have photos of a house on the corner of Fairfield Road & Ackers Road? Think it is called Rock Villas & William Beamont once lived there. On this photo (from 1928) you can see the house just on the right near the tennis courts. mbellers, I have searched through all my old photos without success, I have plenty of the cantilever at the time of the building of the canal but unfortunately none showing Rock Villas, sorry!. algy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbellers Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Thanks for looking Algy How about the tennis courts - does anyone know the history? How long were they there for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbellers Posted October 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Some more interesting aerial photos of Warrington This 1st one is of Stockton Heath village from 1920 - interesting to see the canal go in past the houses on Stafford Road. St Thomas' church in the centre. I will put a couple more photos from the 'Britain From Above' website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbellers Posted October 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 2nd one is the entrance to Warrington Dock - where the new houses are just being built. Warrington Dock Entrance.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbellers Posted October 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 3rd one is of Warrington town centre - shows how the railway & river is quite different. I can't get this to upload for some reason - so here is the link, if I can work out how to do it! My link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 The 3rd one isn't working unfortunately. Have you tried uploading your pictures to Photobucket and using the link codes they give you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbellers Posted October 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Try Britain From Above web-site & then search Warrington there are some good pics on there - plus others from around the country. Perhaps someone with more technical ability can get them onto the forum! Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Try Britain From Above web-site & then search Warrington there are some good pics on there - plus others from around the country. Perhaps someone with more technical ability can get them onto the forum! Cheers Not sure but I think Dizzy put this on a while back;- http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/asearch?search=warrington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbellers Posted October 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Thanks Algy I didn't realise that you had posted these before - some great images on there. The one that shows Warrington & Arpley Bridge in 1920 makes it difficult to get my bearings, things have changed so much since! Cheers Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Glad you posted a reminder about the website Mbellers as I'd forgotten all about it. Is this the pic you mean? If so I couldn't get my bearings either after just looking and the Mersey seems to have once branched off in the direction of where the road now passes Mr Smiths. I never knew it did that. http://www.britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw005004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Brilliant pictures. Strange seeing Richmonds surrounded by fields before the Alla was built. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbellers Posted October 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Thanks Dizzy Thats the pic - I can't work out where Wilson Patten St. is? I guess it is in amongst the buildings, the road that leads off on the bottom right hand corner. Then perhaps the Church on Bold St. is in the foreground (about the only thing I recognise!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Thanks Dizzy Thats the pic - I can't work out where Wilson Patten St. is? I guess it is in amongst the buildings, the road that leads off on the bottom right hand corner. Then perhaps the Church on Bold St. is in the foreground (about the only thing I recognise!). I have edited this photo as on the original I had indicated the street joining Wilson Patten Street as Museum Street, now renamed Bold Street (Correctly). When this photo was taken Wilson Patten Street did not go as far as Bridge Foot and stopped at the junction with Museum Street. What you thought was the Mersey branching off was in fact the road leading to the old Arpley railway station, if you look carefully the Crimea War Cannons are there in the middle of the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Thanks Algy. I always wondered whereabouts the houses were on Knutsford Rd.(river side) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Thanks Algy, your 'map' is great and it makes sense to me now I looked at some old maps earlier and I was still confused, I thought the little rectangle shown on mbellers pic was a boat Even when I saw the words 'russian guns' on an old map my little brain cell thought 'why were there guns in the middle of a waterway in those days'... not good I know. Sometimes I really do worry about myself Now all you have to do is find a pic of 'Rock Villas'. It was on the junction of 'Common Lane' and 'Ackers Lane' at one time if that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Thanks Algy, your 'map' is great and it makes sense to me now I looked at some old maps earlier and I was still confused, I thought the little rectangle shown on mbellers pic was a boat Even when I saw the words 'russian guns' on an old map my little brain cell thought 'why were there guns in the middle of a waterway in those days'... not good I know. Sometimes I really do worry about myself Now all you have to do is find a pic of 'Rock Villas'. It was on the junction of 'Common Lane' and 'Ackers Lane' at one time if that helps Not very often I admit defeat but I have searched and used every avenue without success, so over to you Duckie!. I know it's not an avenue, before Wolfie shows up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 You can see the cannons in front of Arpley Station.... often wondered where they were in relation to todays layout!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbellers Posted October 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Thanks Algy The labelled map is great - all clear now. Dizzy, I like you 1st thought it was the river going in front of Arpley Station! I will keep looking for something about Rock Villas - I can only work out that they were on an 1875 map, then an extract that William Beamont once lived there - it is an interesting building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Sorry for the length of this post… Rock Villas is shown and named on the 1875, 1896, 1899, 1908, 1910 and 1928 old maps. The outline of what I presume to be the same building as it’s the same shape can be seen on the 1954, 1966, 1987 and 1993 maps but it is NOT named. Is Rock Villa still there now? I can't find any photo's of it anywhere so far either. I thought there would be some seeing as though William Beamont had lived there but it seems he didn’t live there for very long. He’s shown on the 1861 census as living in one of the two houses that made up Rock Villa. Each record shows two separate families living there separated by // (which means 2 separate houses rather than two families living in the same house). He seems to have moved there after the death of his first wife Ann Gaskell. She died on 1 Dec 1859, they had lived in Bewsey Street on the 1841 and 1851 census. Anyway, he then remarried and had moved to Orford Hall by 1871 with his new wife Letitia Naegeli. They married on 30 April 1963. In 1861 the two families occupying the two Rock Villa homes were James Tinsley (head) age 30, tanner Martha E Tinsley (wife) Emiline? M Tinsley (daughter) age 1 Ellen Bradshaw (servant) age 25, cook Mary A Rowson (servant) age 20, housemaid Elizabeth Clare (servant) age 22, nurse William Beamont (transcribed Deamont) (head), widow, age 63, attourney of law Elizabeth Newton (servant), age 50, house servant Fanny Newton (servant) age 21, house servant Elizabeth Dolton (servant) age 20, house servant In 1871 the two families occupying the two Rock Villa homes were George Dakin (head) age 33, grocer maltster Elizabeth Dakin (sister) age 28, no occupation Henry K Dakin (brother) age 26, warehouseman Alfred F (or T) Dakin (brother) age 24, tanner Mary J Haynes (servant) age 26, housemaid Mary Booth (servant) age 23, cook John Dun (transcribed wrong as deon) (head) a 37, general manager ‘warrington ?Palis Bantling? Co Eliza Dunn (wife) age 37 Jane Morrison, (mother in law) age 75 Finlay Dun (son) age 8 John A Dun (son) age 7 Jane H Dun (daughter) age 6 Eliza M Dun (daughter) age 2 Robert H Dun (son) age 8 months Elen Hobson (servant) Sara Hobson (servant) Martha ?Fictor? (servant?) And someone who’s name I cant read (servant?) As for the tennis courts. I had a quick look and they are shown on an 1896 map as 'Pavilion Tennis Ground' and are noted on maps up to 1928. The maps I looked at after that are a bit hard to read but I 'think' the tennis courts may be still there on the 1964 map as it looks a bit like the word 'tennis' but it might be that and my eyes may be just thinking it says that. Not that any of that probably helps you of course but it kept me quiet for a bit and I always tend to get sidetracked and go over the top when I start looking for things as Algy and others will probably confirm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbellers Posted October 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Thanks Dizzy Some great information there - all really interesting! Rock Villas are still there - now made into 3 houses. I believe one side used to be a Nursing Home a few years ago (Westwood). I will keep looking for an old photo & post it on here if I find anything of interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 Dizz, George Dakin described as 'Grocer/Maltster' I think would probably the same family that sold the Bridge Street Brewery/Distillery to Greenalls, Weren't they related to you?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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