asperity Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Are you sure? The vast majority seems like an awful lot of people never to see a doctor :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Like you Asp, I have to have a medical to work, most companies do not require medicals, but it does depend where you work, having a heart attack while on watch in the dead of night on board ship would not be very good, likewise being in the control room of a nuclear power station in the dead of night and having a heart attack, would not be very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 There may not be any nuclear power stations now that our German masters have pulled the plug..... and any that need manning can surely be manned by our cheaper Eastern European cousins from Poland can't they??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 I had visions of them coming off shift - glowing - as in the ready brek advert! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 As the recent case of the footballer (who had his health closely watched by his football club - more so than most people) having a heart attack during a match shows, anyone can succumb to such events without warning. Â As for the watchkeeper having a heart attack on the bridge at night, he isn't on his own and there is also a "dead-man" alarm (set to sound the alarm if the watchkeeper doesn't respond at least every 12 minutes). I should hope that anyone left alone in charge of something like a nuclear reactor would have at least as much protection. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 True Asp: but no doubt in our future brave new world; they'll get round to genetic DNA screening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 And to what end? Why all this obsession on prolonging life beyond its natural course. We are ending up with people wishing they could die and not being allowed to. Obscene really, and very sad <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 A brilliant last post asperity, I could not agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Think the idea will be, to eliminate imperfections and genetic disorders by pre-natal interventions; thus saving health costs in the long term. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Adolph Hitler was ahead of his time then with his plans to create the super race? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I once had a conversation with a surgeon in his clinic at what was BUPA at Stretton and he was deadly serious when he told me that the government of the day had an unofficial policy of genocide of the older population, and that was when labour was in and I'm sure this lot have continued with it. He reckoned that the medical profession were being encouraged to withhold costly or complex procedures that would extend life for those that were less than totally mobile or compos mentis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I once had a conversation with a surgeon in his clinic at what was BUPA at Stretton and he was deadly serious when he told me that the government of the day had an unofficial policy of genocide of the older population, and that was when labour was in and I'm sure this lot have continued with it. He reckoned that the medical profession were being encouraged to withhold costly or complex procedures that would extend life for those that were less than totally mobile or compos mentis. Â Hey!, but I managed to survive. Â Hmmm!, fancied a 'double'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 You were right both times Algy! Pure cold hearted economics at the end of the day I'm afraid, something our hunter gatherer ancestors would have been familiar with . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 A brilliant last post asperity, I could not agree more.   I'm glad we agree on something  There are ways and means of allowing a person's life to end naturally Obs. To kill someone by removing food and water as has happened is murder pure and simple. To allow people to die while allieviating pain should be the way to go.  I would like to die like my grandfather, sleeping peacefully (not screaming like the passengers in his car!) :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I'm not advocating anything Asp; just predicting it. Many genetic disorders can be predicted through DNA testing and thus avoided through birth control. The obsesion with longevity is increasing the elderly demographic, and with it, an increase in dependency and health costs due to age specific illness such as dementia. This presents society with an ever increasing burden and ethical questions to resolve - unless we wish to pretend these kind of decisions arn't being made by the medical profession at the moment. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Pro abortion on grounds of whatever then Obs? :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Screening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 And so down the eugenics route to compulsory sterilisation of individuals "someone" deems unfit to reproduce. Better to let nature do the screening and just alleviate the consequences I say. <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Wow Asp, completely agree again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Problem is, we don't allow "nature" to do the screening - we intervene; hence an ever growing world population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 As I said it would be better if it was left to nature. Human intervention is bound to lead to disaster :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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