observer Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Well, we now have jobs for the jobless; errm, so if there are jobs that need doing (litter collection etc), why not just pay them the minimum wage to do it, and hey presto, they're in work? There is a silver lining of course: if they pay them nowt or next to nowt; it should mean they can undercut immigrant labour! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 If someone wants to pay me ?5.93 (nat min wage) to pick up litter... give me my litter stick Oooh I forgot I've already got one curtosy of WBC but I've been doing it for free... What an IDIOT I am !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Seems there will now be a justification for the Richard Heads who throw litter around in the first place - they're providing employment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Ahhh so next time I fill my rubbish bags when I'm walking the dog I must remember to throw it all back somewhere else so the paid picker-upper has something to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Yep, it's called "job creation"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 So if I pick it up like I usually do then throw it down again would I get paid double if I picked it up a second time... double time at ?0 = ?0 though Joking aside I usually pick up along the canal banks etc as due to Health and Safety rules the street picker-uppers are NOT allowed to lean over the canal fence... you think I'm joking BUT I'M NOT !!! Bless them them must feel pretty stupid that they are not allowed to but I DO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 He just can not help himself , everything with Obs always comes back ti immigration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Someone please stop them... I can't cope anymore It's like having a record that you really enjoy sticking or jumping right back to the beginning when you are part way through... you never get to hear the ending Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Well, it may affect it, if the unemployed are forced to work on farms - could put a few Rumanian kids out of work or an I making tht one up?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Durnim Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Very clever these government folk, they make people redundant, them very same people can not find work because of the already big unemployment queue and no fault of their own, Government then re-employ them on Job Seekers Allowance ?50.95/?64.30 a week or no wage at all, very clever and under-handed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlady54 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Someone please stop them... I can't cope anymore It's like having a record that you really enjoy sticking or jumping right back to the beginning when you are part way through... you never get to hear the ending My thoughts too! In fact some threads I avoid altogether as I know there will be at least a page of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I have no problem, making the unemployed do some work or training for their benafit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Lt & obs come on lads a bit of playground banter is acceptable but I think you both get a little too personal no need for the venom that you display sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Fair point, Why not ban debate on Immigration ,it will stop it straight away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Sorry folks, I shall endevour to maintain altitude in future and avoid combat with low flying aircraft! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 He just cannot resist Stopping debate on Immigration is a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 He just cannot resist Lt... I found Obs comment rather humourous. Could you not have just have read it or replied without a personal counter attack Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz You are both as bad as each other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 There we are didn't take long to sort did it - It wont last though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Stopping debate on Immigration is a good idea Stiflng free speech.... that would be at odds with your EU ideals surely??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 The immigration debate will never be settled, And it would stop the hard right propaganda, which common decency dictates has to be countered. In other words, he stops his hard right bulls**t, I will not counter it, then there will no friction points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Kije, believe me, Obs is far from "hard right" when it comes to immigration Immigration will always be a subject which gets people wound up, especially when hard working taxpayers see non hardworking immigrants getting things for free that they (the tax payers) cannot afford If only it was seen that assylum seekers tried everything to stop at the first country safe to give them asylum, but unfortunately we are constantly told of the truck loads of assylum seekers trying desperatetly to get to the UK to get the handouts and freebies. Personally, I am not a great lover of assylum seekers, but this country has always been fair to those that truly need help, unfortunately, too many people now exploit our generous systems and that too winds up the local populous and leads to a rise in the BNP votes etc. and to be fair, a lot of it is not made any easier by the EU free movemnet of citizens which Brown and Blair did not cap which lead to the mass influx of Eastern Europeans. This country is only of a certain size and we can nly support so many people with the infrastructure we have and even though masses of Eastern Europeans are allowed to come over here to work, it is the local councils who have to pay for the translators and the teachers and even the Polish road signs (as they have in Crewe) and that again winds up the loacsl.... there is no easy answer Kije, but just dismissing everyone who dares to mention the subject as a racist, is just akin to sticking your head in the sand.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 And the latest in this long line of abuse: a Council Worker, employed to assist Roma Gypsies, has been sentenced to 2 years for membership of a gang that was involved in child traficking and benefit fraud - to the tune of ?2.9 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 The other one of course is housing benefit and the uproar it is causing because the coalition want to cap payments.... however; when you see that one council: Camden, is paying over ?720,000 a year in housing benefit to just 20 families, you can see where the problems lie. If a working person can't afford their mortgage or rent, they move so relocating 20 families who can't afford their rents after the benefits are cut isn't a problem in my eyes.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 As you say Baz it gets people wound up, best to stop posting on it for the sake of other people, As I said before we all know each others stand points, they will never change, so there is no point. Its a compromise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 There is a point: immigration and the EU are two major issues that are of concern to more and more people, BUT, todate politicians have swept them under the carpet and failed to address public disquiet, thus there is a disconnect between the political class and the people. That's how/why, a Local Council like HarinGAY, can use tax-payers money to employ a woman to look after the interests of Roma Gypsies, no doubt with the assistance of legal aid (again from the tax-payer), in order to encourage folk into this Country (by-passing others), in order to seek the bounty of our benefits system legally or illegally. Still, there are occasionally silver linings, on the issue of the 11,000 foreign prisoners in our jails (out of a total popualtion of 85,000), who this Government now wish to deport, NOT cos it makes sense, but cos, in this age of austerity, they can't afford it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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