observer Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 From playing the victim since the holocaust, it would now appear that the Jews are now playing the roll of persecutor, bank-rolled by the US. Palastinian families in Jerusulem are being evicted from THEIR properties, to make room for ILLEGAL Jewish settlement. Israel is operating in violation of umpteen UN resolutions (a lot more than Saddam ever did), has a nuclear capabilitity (unlike Iran is allowed); and is now violating basic human rights in contravention of international law and the promises of a new US President. One can imagine the resentment that this causes throughout the Muslim world, and the way it feeds Islamic extremism, even into events at Fort Hood, Texas. Tory Bliar was tasked with the job of reconciling the situation in Palastine as the UN envoy - alas nothings come of that. As paymaster and patron of Israel, it would seem the US holds the key to controlling Jewish extremism, by cutting off their money supply - or would the powerfull Jewish lobby in the US just fund them seperately? This is the epi-centre of the malignant cancer that is the principle cause of Islamic terrorism - so, if Mr Brown really wants to keep OUR streets safe from terror, perhaps he should be getting his mate Tony to pull his finger out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeway56 Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Didn't you know Abraham had a word with his imaginary friend in the sky and this imaginary friend of his promised him and his bretheren the land of Palestine ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Very good post Obs, on this subject at least I am completely with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Well that endorsement has put the kybosh on the argument then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Feel free to disagree Asperity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 With what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Observer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 6, 2009 Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Well actually I agree with Safeway56. What you and Obs are agreeing about has nothing to do with reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 6, 2009 Tell that to the Palastinian families that are being evicted from their home Asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 And of course the Palestinian terrorists in Gaza are blameless aren't they Obs? You have a very one sided take on the situation as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Interesting opinion Observer. But I believe there is a lot more involved than what you have stated. Nothing is black and white, when it comes to people! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safeway56 Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Zionists half-inched Palestine...couldn't be simpler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Asp, you mean like acts of terrorism? Like the Zionist Stern Gang perpetrated on BRITISH police and military personel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Aha Obs!! You're getting the point now - there's wrong on both sides of that particular dispute. It could have all been settled peaceably decades ago but people on both sides decided that they didn't want to live in peace. It's pointless putting the blame on one side or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 How could you have peace asperity when the Palestinians were forced from there homes, and Israel refuses to even give them compensation  If you were evicted from your house and land would you not fight for it back or compensation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 If you were evicted from your house and land would you not fight for it back or compensation  Well, I wouldn't strap half a hundredweight of nails and semtex to my chest and board a bus with the intention of killing as many people as I could, no. As Asp says, neither side is innocent on this one, so it's hard to judge - but if neither side will stop fighting for longer than five minutes, it becomes irrelevant to try and settle it and pointless even discussing it. Whatever is done, one side or the other will kick off again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 I wouldn't strap half a hundredweight of nails and semtex to my chest and board a bus with the intention of killing as many people as I could, Â You might after 40 years of nobody listening or giving a dam about your predicament. The World turned a blind eye to Israeli ethnic cleanzing. The Palestinians feel they have been abandoned with little access to weapons to match the Israeli's that is what they have been reduced too. Â Yes there has been wrong on both sides but it started with the Isreali's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 More ignorance of the facts LtKije. Try reading up on a bit of history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 7, 2009 Report Share Posted November 7, 2009 Not at all Asperity, Let us here your facts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 No doubt there is wrong on both sides, none of which I condone. However, the State of Israel is currently condoning the eviction of Palastinians from their homes, at the behest of right wing extremist orthadox`Jews, who believe it is THEIR "promised" land, despite umpteen UN resolutions against their actions, which they arrogantly continue to ignore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 Not at all Asperity, Let us here your facts  You've got a computer (of sorts), find out the facts for yourself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 I know the facts asperity, How very ignorant of you to call my interpretation of the facts wrong and then not have the guts to post your own when asked. No problem with you commenting on me asperity, but if you are going to join a debate do it properly or stay out  Now have you got the guts to tell us your interpretation of the facts  Also I didn't know you were an expert on computers, I would like to know why you think I have a computer of sorts. The Mac platform has had a fully 64 bit operating system for a number of years, unlike Pc, but you already new this as you are an expert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted November 8, 2009 Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 As I understand it, Palestine was partitioned by the League of Nations into a Jewish State, an Arab state and Jerusalem was UN administered. This meant resettlement of both Jews and Arabs equally, not ethnic cleansing. Just as many Jewish people lost their homes and had to resettle. More importantly, the partitioning was not done by the Israelis, it was a vote amongst the League. Â When the Arab state wouldn't agree, Israel declared independence and the Arab state (Palestine now) declared war the next day. Israel also had issues with Egypt and Jordan and has signed peace treaties with both. Â As far as I am aware, the Palestinians are not offering to return any land or homes to Jews who moved out. Israeli hands are not clean - there has been a lot of unacceptable conduct on both sides. However, if they can't reach agreement after 60 years, then there is not a lot to be said or done, is there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2009 , handbags at 5 yards?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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