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Whilst it would seem the paranoid military Junta in Burma are currently commiting genocide by neglect; the hand-ringing antics of western politicians is rather pathetic. :roll: Nick Clegg the new LibDem Leader (another one just out of short pants), seems to be advocating a massive air drop of aid into the affected area. :shock: Does he not realise the probable consequences of such a knee jerk suggestion? :? The aid aircraft would need to enter the territorial air space of Burma without permission, which would constitute an invasion of that Country, presumably retalitory action by the Burmese Air Force and loss of life on both sides. :roll: If this is the best that Nick Clegg can offer, I'd suggest they return to the wiser council of Ming or Vince as their Leader. :wink:

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It would seem that diplomacy is the only way forward in this situation. The military government are obviously oblivious to the damage they are doing to their own country never mind their reputation. As Obs says any action as advocated by the LibDems would be construed as an act of aggression by the paranoid leaders of the country. :cry::cry:

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And once again the Gerneral public suffer.. although i can understand the thoughs of doing direct airdrops i can also see the problematic with them and the need for armed fighter escorts which would be seen as an invasion and no doubt the Burma Gov would try to fight.. but you know what they say,"you lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink" if they wont accept help then i would leave them to sort out the problem themselves..



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Unless and until, we have Global Governance, based on a representative per capita democratic legislature, with a firm legal framework and a democratically controlled world police/military organisation; with all (or most) nation States buying in to the idea - we'll continue to have Burmas, Darfurs, Zimbawes etc. :cry: Other than that, we're just wasting our money. :roll:

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I don't trust our media.


While this may well be the case, our media takes a lot of steps to sway public opinion against alledged "rogue" or none allied states.


When the humanitarian aid comes at the risk of interferance to soveriegnty and from countries who without a doubt would use this disaster for their own "black" operations , you have to worry about the fact that we as allied and so called "free westyern world" are not trusted to give aid in such situations.

If our causes were always purely humanitarian and noble then I'm sure that Burma would be more ready to accept our aid.


we as individuals who are members of this western civilisation must wake up and ask our selves why Burma cannot trust us? or rather our governments...are they realy that hell bent on allowing their people to die rather than allow foriegn aid in ?


seems every nation not in our own "axis click" happily kill their own on a daily basis...can that realy be true ? or are we subject to global properganda from a very select media run by a very small group of individuals.

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I don't see any anti-west propaganda, only pro west.


a prime example of what we are subject too on a daily basis so much so it is almost subliminal is today on the news for you all to see.


imagine the west is so concerned with getting this aid to burma, like nothing else is on their mind and yet the first plane to land and provide aid from the US somone had the forethought and went to the trouble of printing and paying for a drape US-AID (from the american people) banner all across it.


look here or on tonights news



now I know its a case of so what, but this is properganda, nothing else surely getting the aid to the people is more important than telling the world who the aid is from, and yet this is what our media wants us to see...we are the good guys.


flags, stars and stripes, captain america !


obviously the more they say they don't want it, the more news worthy the fight of the US to help the people, hearts & minds all thet bull!


where were the missisippi aid packets. at times like this infrastructure fails, Im sure the burmese government are doing loads that wont get reported.


the bodies lying in the rivers are the same footage the shown on day one.

do you think that the people, feinds and family have left them there all these days later...never mind the government, no, they have been collected.


then suddenly Aid will get through, the situation will improve and the US will claim success.

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When the dawn comes up like thunder outer China 'crost the bay?


How awkward to be thinking about the Burma of 100 years ago in:



Written by Rudyard Kipling


By the old Moulmein Pagoda, lookin' eastward to the sea,

There's a Burma girl a-settin', and I know she thinks o' me;

For the wind is in the palm-trees, and the temple-bells they say:

"Come you back, you British soldier; come you back to Mandalay!"

Come you back to Mandalay,

Where the old Flotilla lay:

Can't you 'ear their paddles chunkin' from Rangoon to Mandalay?

On the road to Mandalay,

Where the flyin'-fishes play,

An' the dawn comes up like thunder outer China 'crost the Bay!


'Er petticoat was yaller an' 'er little cap was green,

An' 'er name was Supi-yaw-lat ? jes' the same as Theebaw's Queen,

An' I seed her first a-smokin' of a whackin' white cheroot,

An' a-wastin' Christian kisses on an 'eathen idol's foot:

Bloomin' idol made o'mud ?

Wot they called the Great Gawd Budd ?

Plucky lot she cared for idols when I kissed 'er where she stud!

On the road to Mandalay . . .


When the mist was on the rice-fields an' the sun was droppin' slow,

She'd git 'er little banjo an' she'd sing "~Kulla-lo-lo!~"

With 'er arm upon my shoulder an' 'er cheek agin' my cheek

We useter watch the steamers an' the ~hathis~ pilin' teak.

Elephints a-pilin' teak

In the sludgy, squdgy creek,

Where the silence 'ung that 'eavy you was 'arf afraid to speak!

On the road to Mandalay . . .


But that's all shove be'ind me - long ago an' fur away,

An' there ain't no 'busses runnin' from the Bank to Mandalay;

An' I'm learnin' 'ere in London what the ten-year soldier tells:

"If you've 'eard the East a-callin', you won't never 'eed naught else."

No! you won't 'eed nothin' else

But them spicy garlic smells,

An' the sunshine an' the palm-trees an' the tinkly temple-bells;

On the road to Mandalay . . .


I am sick o' wastin' leather on these gritty pavin'-stones,

An' the blasted Henglish drizzle wakes the fever in my bones;

Tho' I walks with fifty 'ousemaids outer Chelsea to the Strand,


An' they talks a lot o' lovin', but wot do they understand?

Beefy face an' grubby 'and ?

Law! wot do they understand?

I've a neater, sweeter maiden in a cleaner, greener land!

On the road to Mandalay . . .


Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,

Where there aren't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst;

For the temple-bells are callin', an' it's there that I would be ?

By the old Moulmein Pagoda, looking lazy at the sea;

On the road to Mandalay,

Where the old Flotilla lay,

With our sick beneath the awnings when we went to Mandalay!

On the road to Mandalay,

Where the flyin'-fishes play,

An' the dawn comes up like thunder outer China 'crost the Bay!

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There was a story in the Los Angeles Times about rice in Myanmar being loaded onto ships sailing to Bangladesh, while the military kept aid from reaching the needy. I believe that is called: capitalism.


What to do about Burma? Candide says: we all must tend to our gardens.

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