Child Benefit: £1m A Week For EU Children Abroad

[Bazj]

definately dumb

[asperity]

Lt Kije you are under the illusion that the EU is the centre of the world. Not true. EEA members abide by regulations agreed globally between trading nations. Obviously these regulations are the same regulations that the EU has to abide by otherwise the EU would be unable to trade with the rest of the world. In drawing up these regulations the EEA members represent themselves whereas the EU members aren't allowed to as they have to be represented by the EU. In other words when the regulations that govern international trade were formulated, and when they are updated, the EEA members have as much influence individually as the EU. So the EU is a small fish in a big pond and the UK is a small part of that small fish. You could rephrase your question to say that the EU has to abide by regulations EEA members have drawn up YES or NO?

[Lt Kije]

Not talking about the rest of the world, EEA members have to abide by most EU regulations,

 

Yes or No Asperity,?

 

And their choice on what they can ignore is very limited

 

Yes or No Asperity?

 

I don't think you will answer!!!!

[asperity]

What I am saying is that the EEA countries follow the same regulations that govern ALL world trade not just trade with the EU, otherwise thay AND the EU would be unable to trade with anybody but themselves. The trading world consists of a lot more than the EU and the EEA. You really need to broaden your horizons Lt Kije.

[inky pete]

I've already stipulated that EEA members have agreed to abide by "most" (more than 50%) of EU regulations corporal.

 

This is because "most" (more than 50%) EU regulations simply enact separately agreed provisions of global trading and other treaty agreements, or uncontroversial matters which most countries have within their legislative codes anyway.

 

Your EU dishonesty/dumbness is obviously preventing you from recognising that it is a small minority of the total number of rules and regulations have by FAR the biggest impact on most UK citizens view of the whole morally bankrupt EU super-state project.

 

Perhaps YOU will now answer why on earth you are obsessed with the number of rules which different countries abide by, rather than with the content, scope, and impact of those rules?????

[observer]

Perhaps Kije could return to the title topic, and explain the justification for British benefits and rates, being paid to Polish and other EU nationals.  Had to laugh at some luvvie on TV, who said " the new Bulgarian and Romanian influx will be dispersed throughout the EU".  Well, maybe Scandanavia, Germany or even France; but most definately the UK (international benefits paradise); but certainly not Greece, Italy or Spain, with 50% youth unemployment (they're coming here too - OLA!).

[Lt Kije]

People think the EEA, is a good alternative to the EU, it simply is not, you have to pay money into the EU, you have no or very little say in new laws the EU might come up with. Norway for example has to pay more money into the EU that a lot of its members. Just trying to make the point the EEA, is not what it is made out to be by some. If you remain within the EU, at least you have a say on the directives. You might not win everyone, but you might get them toned down. EEA members do not.

[asperity]

You haven't taken in a single word \I've said have you Lt Kije. You demand evidence from everyone else but produce none of your own. I give up now.

[Bazj]

you have to pay money into the EU,

well you do if you live in UK, Germany, Italy, Holland, France and Belgium. If you live in any of the other EU countries its all free.... in fact, you get loads of money just for being in it. Poland took over 10bn of our money in 2011 as well as sending over most of their unemployed young people to take all of the jobs which our unemployed young people should have been doing.....

[Lt Kije]

Interesting

 

http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21567914-how-britain-could-fall-out-european-union-and-what-it-would-mean-making-break

 

Where is your evidence Asp, I see you have found the reputation button

[asperity]

That isn't evidence, it is an opinion!!

 

And what is a reputation button?

[Bazj]

Asp, I see you have found the reputation button

 

nope.... that was me!!

[Lt Kije]

Yet to have anything from you, on the evidence front, makes interesting reading though,

[observer]

One more try! So is it right for other EU members to use our benefits system?

[Lt Kije]

Is it right that UK citizens to use other EU Countries benefits, is it right that pensioners living in Spain should be entitled to the winter fuel allowance

[Peter T]

Shall we try ONE question at a time?

[Lt Kije]

We? Peter?

[observer]

Errrrm Kije - believe the pensions & benefits of BRITISH Ex-Pats, living in Spain, are paid for by BRITISH tax-payers (taking account of their NI & previous tax contributons); the Spanish Gov doesn't pay them, nor are they entitled to "free" Health Care.  Unlike the UK, where everyone and his merkat can claim BRITISH benefits at BRITISH rates.

[Cleopatra]

what's a merkat?

[asperity]

It's like a market only spelled different.

[observer]

..... and they have an East European accent! 

[Bazj]

simples

[observer]

Maybe they should have been Polecats Sergie?!

[Lt Kije]

British citizens living in other EU Countries can claim benefits in those Countries, it is not one way.

[Bazj]

British citizens living in other EU Countries can claim benefits in those Countries, it is not one way.

 

but british people working in Poland cannot claim benefits for their kids who are living in the UK.... Polish workers in the UK can.... that is one way