observer Posted October 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2008 Here's one for Asp: the EU has just opened a job recruitment centre in Mali (Africa) - apparently to save economic migrants from drowning in their attempts to reach Europe - so now they'll fly them in - what a joke! As it stands, those that currently make it to Tenerife, are held for questioning for 40 days to find out where they came from, if they don't disclose this information, they are released onto the streets and are then free to roam the EU - someones taking the Mick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Seems Woolas is now talking tough on immigration; due to the patently obvious observation that rising unemployment will stimulate xenophobia and a rise in the support of the BNP - WOW, how long as this topic been going - can we say we told you so?! But, alas too little too late: we still have free entry into the UK by EU citizens, so Bobski the builder will still be competing for jobs; and we still have around 500,000 "illegals" that they can't locate or who are in prisons or detention centres; and we still (despite being an Island) have no effective entry controls - these folk must have degrees in incompetance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Seems Woolas is now talking tough on immigration; due to the patently obvious observation that rising unemployment will stimulate xenophobia and a rise in the support of the BNP - WOW, how long as this topic been going - can we say we told you so?! But, alas too little too late: we still have free entry into the UK by EU citizens, so Bobski the builder will still be competing for jobs; and we still have around 500,000 "illegals" that they can't locate or who are in prisons or detention centres; and we still (despite being an Island) have no effective entry controls - these folk must have degrees in incompetance. Â With honours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Is it a coincidence that Woolas is now talking tough on immigration, at the same time as NuLab activists may be door stepping in the Glasgow by-election? Maybe they've been told something by their core supporters?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Seems I spoke too soon, as Woolas has now had his wings clipped by his boss, the Home Sec - so I guess were back to UK continueing as the dustbin of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 Are not all men born equal  Are we not equal in the eyes of God  You are all forgetting that lots of Britains leave the Uk every year to work and live in other countries, Britain has suffered a Brain drain for years  I did not realise that so many people in Warrington suffered from the disease born out of ignorance called xenophobia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 "Are not all men born equal"? A. Quite evidently not, one can be born into riches or squalour - such is the state of the world. "Are we not equal in the eyes of God"? A. That presumes everyone believes in "God"; and even those that did, I believe had preferencial seating in many churches, thus sanctifying inequality! "Brain drain"? A. 1)This presumes that "brain power" is finite within our Nation; these people have been trained and educated at tax-payers expense, and thus should refund the tax-payer prior to leaving the Country that trained them. 2) It also presumes that the influx of economic refugees is specifically restricted to those with "brains"; well I suppose if leaving one's homeland in search of economic salvation, whether that be on State funded benefits, equates to brainpower - you may have a point. 3) Un-managed migration is a short sighted liberal folly, with no reference to the capacity of these Islands to sustain increasing population levels, nor the social realities and reaction that this will stimulate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 I see lots of Poles are returning to Poland...not a lot of loyalty in economic migrancy...hope the UK remembers to cancel their child allowances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Well the fact that Woolass has been slapped down by his Party bosses, shows that the beard and sandal Brigade are still running NuLab; that they have no coherent immigration policy and that they will continue to lose their core supporters - perhaps they are now relying on the immigrant vote?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2008 Latest: NET immigration is now at over 300,000 a year, and it seems civil servants have a perverse incentive to grant ever more visas - NuLab just havn't got a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 22, 2008 Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Latest: NET immigration is now at over 300,000 a year, and it seems civil servants have a perverse incentive to grant ever more visas - NuLab just havn't got a clue. Â for once I agree with every word you say Obs.... and that takes some doing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 The difference is; you seem to think the Tories would make a difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2008 Talking of the Tories: believe the latest from Boris, is to have an amnesty for all "illegal" immigrants - talk about the frying pan and the fire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 The difference is; you seem to think the Tories would make a difference! Â Not at all; the tories won't make a difference because everyone now has human rights; which basically mean that if you are a real law abiding citizen, they have nothing to do with you because you don't need them. Â If you are a criminal or an illegal immigrant or foreign national on a short term visa (or all of the above); and don't fancy going home, you can use the human rights act to get to stay. Dave won't get rid of the human rights act and Cleggy will probably want to extend it even more to give criminals even more rights. Â No, the Tories won't do any better; however they are not run by a fat scottish one-eyed, slack jawed liar and a bloke with thunderbird puppet eyebrows and that is good enough for me!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Talking of the Tories: believe the latest from Boris, is to have an amnesty for all "illegal" immigrants - talk about the frying pan and the fire!  but there is no real alternative to that Obs. as above post states, human rights and european courts and endless appeals and sob stories make chucking out illegals almost impossible. ..........."ooh we can't send him back to his home country because they might torture him" and all that nonsense.  They are here.  We cannot easily get rid of them without repealling half of the nanny state rules and regulations  Might as well let them stay but put them on 50% tax rate as a punishment for 10 years and lets exploit them instead of them exploiting us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Well you said it: get out of the EU incl the HR Act, repeal our HR legislation and all the other nanny nonsence - sorted: we just need a political Party to actually DO IT. Noticed they're giving the immigrants the first tranche of ID cards; errm, does that tell us when they enter/leave the Country, so we have accurate info as to who and how many are here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 for a more accurate figure of how many are here.... take the government figure, double it, add another nought on the end and then you will be about right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 On cruise ships, they have a simple system of ID swipe cards, which can be used for all purchases on board, and for keeping track of everyone leaving or entering the ship - now, subject to the problematic introduction of a National IT system - it would seem logical to aspire to a similar system for the Country - rather than spending ?5billion (money we don't really have now); on a system that merely establishes who you are and will no doubt become an industry for forgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Jackie Smith (Home Sec) has rightly raised fears of Zimbawe refugees entering the UK with cholora, as many have already done using forged passports - alas the rest of the ostriches still havce their heads in the sand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted December 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Migration Watch has been analysing the Government's figures, which show that most NEW jobs created in the past 7 years have been taken by EU migrants - so not much hope for the sick and disabled then?! The Tories have come up with a gem: start paying those immigrants that have been refused assylum; guaranteed to ensure that more come flocking over here for a hand out - what happened to just deporting them back to country of origin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 The Albanian Authorities have asked the UK to return 100s of suspected criminals (including muderers), who have allegedley fled to Britain. The UK Gov deny they are here in such high numbers - but how would THEY know?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Trouble is; if there is any possibility of them being harmed when they get back, the huuman rites brigade will be crawling all over them to offer legal aid and sanctuary which will cost millions and they will end up staying here anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve the Original Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 You could become a Stateless person!! that way you can claim everything that you fancy..including me! Â Â Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Getting a touch xenophobic this debate, you'll be coming up with final solutions next  A free market needs a free movement of labour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 WHY should that include criminals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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