asperity Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7127819.ece No suprise there then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wireless Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article7127819.ece No suprise there then Not sure what else peple thought the Tories were going to say.The blacker the picture they paint the more they can cut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Asperity has always had problems differentiating between propaganda and truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 The truth is that we've had 13 years of propoganda from NuLiebour pushing the lie that Brown was competent and numerate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 You think things are going to get better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Asperity has always had problems differentiating between propaganda and truth http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/may/18/civil-servants-labour-spending http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8690312.stm http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/7738377/Labour-overruled-civil-servants-objections-to-final-spending-plans.html Seems the propaganda may be the truth after all Kije Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 You think things are going to get better Unlike you LtKije I live in the real world and know that the pain is coming and I am going to be one of the poor saps that is going to feel it. I also know that the same pain would be coming no matter who won the last election. However I know where the blame for this disaster lies. Who has been supposedly ruling this country for the last 13 years? Certainly not your favourite scapegoat Maggie, nor even that poor sap Major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Brown has been a disaster both as Chancellor then PM,,,no wonder Blair jumped ship when he did , but let us not forget the destruction of industry under Thatcherism that led to a dependancy culture in the 80's from which this country has never recovered. Thatcher "rescued" Britain by selling off the family silver to overseas buyers to asset strip at will just to plug the economic whole of the day...her crusade against the unions by closing Britain's longstanding industrial base turned a country that was the workshop of the world into a lame duck industrial wasteland ,but on the plus side Thatcher did stand up to Europe. by the way i am a floating voter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted May 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Britain was a lame duck industrial wasteland before Maggie even became leader of the Tory party. The Sick Man of Europe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Fair summary of the historical reality Wavy; but Asp does have a point; the UK was the "sick man" of Western Europe, but instead of seeking to cure the patient by modernisation, re-investment of our industrial base - she decided to kill off the patient once and for all. And before anyone mentions demogogues like Scargill; Scargill was wrong about the number of pits targetted for closure; he actually underestimated the number! So beside wrecking our industrial base, she ruined any chance of any self sufficiency in energy supply - and rather than any attempt at repairing this legacy of damage; Bliar embrassed a reliance on "the City" and we now know where that's taken us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted May 21, 2010 Report Share Posted May 21, 2010 Yes, we were the sick man of Europe long before that in the days when the unions were too strong & the carrot of better production abroad was too juicy for many multi-national firms to resist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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