asperity Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 http://tinyurl.com/nyoq5s Would you support road privatisation in return for scrapping VED? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Only if the duty on fuel were scrapped as well. That is currently the major proportion of the tax levied on motoring, the cost of the annual road tax disk is tiny in comparison. Of course, you could simply argue that fuel duty is effectively a road toll in itself - and collected in a very cost effective way as well. Bigger vehicles burn more fuel and so pay more tax, as do higher mileage vehicles. So maybe use the "shadow toll" model and pay the private motorway operating companies out of the vast pot of money that fuel duty already generates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Absolutely not. Our motorways have already been built and have already been paid for by our taxes and are maintained by them. By scrapping VED you would then be open to copping another tax to pay for all the other local roads because the revenue stream from the VED would not be there to distribute. Anyone who has ever driven in France will tell you that yes; to drive on their toll motorways is a dream and we always use them when we drive to the south. However that is only for two days a year in effect and that does cost the best part of ?100.00 both ways, when you come off the peage, you hit heavy traffic and gridlocked side roads..... not a good idea in the UK where the roads are clogged enough already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 I agree with your logical conclusion Baz, they'll be taxing the air we breath next! Another aspect to this is, how do we know folk are insured and have an MOT, without the control of VED? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted August 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 That information can be on a database the same as it is now Obs, without the VED part being necessary. I personally wouldn't trust a future administration not to re-introduce VED under another name when they need a few billion extra in tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Think you'll find they will need to find ways of increasing taxes across the board to pay off the National debt - hence the spectre of road charging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 How about VAT on public transport fares? Should raise a few quid. Motorists pay VAT on their transport costs - on their fuel, their servicing costs, on parts, and on buying the vehicle in the first place, and even on the extra taxes levied on them! - but travellers by bus, train or aircraft don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 How about VAT on public transport fares? Should raise a few quid. Motorists pay VAT on their transport costs - on their fuel, their servicing costs, on parts, and on buying the vehicle in the first place, and even on the extra taxes levied on them! - but travellers by bus, train or aircraft don't. Of course travellers (without passes ) pay any increases, you don't imagine that operators absorb them rather than pass them on do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Public transport is zero VAT rated. VAT exemptions (Schedule 8, Group 8, Item 4a) Yet another example of the motorist cross-subsidising services which can't pay their own way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Completely agree with Baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 31, 2009 Report Share Posted August 31, 2009 Completely agree with Baz blimey!! That's twice in one week where someone agrees with me. Just last friday, I said to the wife "It is hot here" and she said "yes it is!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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