observer Posted April 11, 2009 Report Share Posted April 11, 2009 Thanks to a Euro Court decision, seems the Government will have to allow prisoners the vote! Perhaps when the politicians go canvassing, they could be kept in, as prison seems an appropriate place for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Wonder if that includes the ones who have just trashed Ashwell Prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 So Europe gives prisoners, scum, thieves, rapists and murderers the vote, but will not allow, actively discourages us having the vote on Europe? Typical double standards.... come on Sgt, lets have a go at defending this decision eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 It's only a question of giving the vote to prisoners who will be released in the lifetime of the parliament being elected. Why should someone who happens to be in custody on the day of a general election, possibly serving a very short sentence for something relatively minor, be disenfranchised? We allow all sorts of people who do not have to live under our governments to have a hand in selecting them - ex-pats, those about to permantently emigrate, tax exiles, Scottish people etc. - all of those who DO hace to live under a government should be able to influence its election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 Presumably Prison was/is intended as a punishment, a tempory exclusion from a society that a criminal has offended against; such an "exclusion" should therefore include all normal rights that go with "inclusion", including deciding which set of rats rule the roost. Using your principle of "anyone who lives under a Government should have a part in electing it; would allow all and any immigrant the vote, including it would seem, some would be terrorists. As for Ex-Pats - they are not here so shoudn't be allowed to vote. The scams involved in the PV system already demonstrate that we have a loose arrangement on a par with Zimbawe, this would merely add to the farce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 As far as I'm concerned, anyone who has pays UK income taxes and will be resident here for a significant portion of the coming parliament should be entitled to vote in a general election - regardless of their citizenship. "No taxation without representation!!" equally:- "No representation without contribution!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 That is what defines punishment Inky, being taken out of every day life and doing the things normal people do such as vote. The fact that the prisoner is being released during a parliament, doesn't mean they won't take the first opportunity to get themselves banged up again does it? "No taxation without representation!!" equally:- "No representation without contribution!!" What about the doley chavs? They have the vote but don't contribute any tax into the system but they still get a vote!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted April 12, 2009 Report Share Posted April 12, 2009 What about the doley chavs? They have the vote but don't contribute any tax into the system but they still get a vote!! Now you get where I'm coming from!!! We can't afford 'em all, and you can't expect turkeys to vote in favour of Xmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 One has to distinguish between OUR Chavs, and THEIR Chavs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Just wondering will they be voting at the local Polling Station...or using postal voting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Don't be daft Paul..... you just know it would be a breach of their huuuman rites if they weren't allowed to vote in person.. accompanied of course by a security guard on minimum wage too!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Won't be long before they're allowed to stand for Parliament; after all. you don't need to attend the House of Commons to get your money, as Sein Fein have discovered! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 And it's a den of thieves as we've all found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Won't be long before they're allowed to stand for Parliament; after all. you don't need to attend the House of Commons to get your money, as Sein Fein have discovered! The hunger striker Bobby Sands did....and died shortly afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 unlike his successors, who I believe collect ?25,000 apiece for London Flats they never use, plus an MPs salary for no appearances - . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 13, 2009 Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Can't upset Sin Fein though in case they start shooting people again!! Let all the murderers out but jail the old man for not paying his poll tax..... Justice The New Labour way!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2009 Oh no Baz, they've definatately given up on fighting now - life's much toooo comfortable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted April 14, 2009 Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Following from the Daily Telegraph: "The Real IRA, the terrorist splinter group which claimed responsibility for the killing of two British soldiers last month, will carry out attacks on mainland Britain "when it becomes opportune", a spokesman has said. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2009 Why can't they relieve their boredom with a sport or a hobby?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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