Observer II Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 Having spent his leadership avoiding any serious policy commitments, and acting like a weather vane to MSM opinion; Starmer's chickens are coming home to roost. He clearly hasn't exorcised the anti-Israeli dogma from his membership; in fact with an increasing Muslim membership that's got worse, leading to the withdrawal of Labour from the Rochdale by-election. Alas, when you sup with the Devil, there are consequences; and the decades of Labour relying on the Muslim vote, delivered on the basis of ignorant family members being told how to vote by their heads of family, are now at risk. If Starmer alienates the Muslim vote, it will start parading in it's own colours and elect it's own sectarian MPs, who are more concerned with events in Gaza than in the UK. Meanwhile, the Tories are totally out of touch with the mood of the Country, seeking closer links with the failing EU, and without a clue or motivation to address the issue of immigration. So for all those being filled with self loathing for being indigenously British and white, the only avenue available is Reform. 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confused52 Posted February 14 Report Share Posted February 14 How short-sighted you are;. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted February 14 Author Report Share Posted February 14 😑 Quite the opposite actually ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 On 2/14/2024 at 6:10 PM, Observer II said: Having spent his leadership avoiding any serious policy commitments, and acting like a weather vane to MSM opinion; Starmer's chickens are coming home to roost. He clearly hasn't exorcised the anti-Israeli dogma from his membership; in fact with an increasing Muslim membership that's got worse, leading to the withdrawal of Labour from the Rochdale by-election. Alas, when you sup with the Devil, there are consequences; and the decades of Labour relying on the Muslim vote, delivered on the basis of ignorant family members being told how to vote by their heads of family, are now at risk. If Starmer alienates the Muslim vote, it will start parading in it's own colours and elect it's own sectarian MPs, who are more concerned with events in Gaza than in the UK. Meanwhile, the Tories are totally out of touch with the mood of the Country, seeking closer links with the failing EU, and without a clue or motivation to address the issue of immigration. So for all those being filled with self loathing for being indigenously British and white, the only avenue available is Reform. 😠 Odd that you didn't mention that a Tory mayor has also been abanded by his party Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 On 2/14/2024 at 6:27 PM, Confused52 said: How short-sighted you are;. I thought you said you were a majority, Reform the right wing party are polling at about 7% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted February 15 Author Report Share Posted February 15 Last time I looked it was 12%, but in terms of public opinion over 70% want radical curbs on immigration, the tragedy is, that these people don't put their votes (yet) where their opinions lie; which occured in the Referendum and the 2019 election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 54 minutes ago, Observer II said: Last time I looked it was 12%, but in terms of public opinion over 70% want radical curbs on immigration, the tragedy is, that these people don't put their votes (yet) where their opinions lie; which occured in the Referendum and the 2019 election. You might need to look again, and here's you thinking you are a majority, no just a small minority, how can a one-time labour want to be, move so far to the right???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted February 15 Author Report Share Posted February 15 The white working class have always been socially conservative, Labour used to represent them, until the woke middle class took over, and it seems the Tories have now gone the same way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 2 minutes ago, Observer II said: The white working class have always been socially conservative, Labour used to represent them, until the woke middle class took over, and it seems the Tories have now gone the same way. No they have not!! Were you ever actually a fan of Labour, or did you just see it as an easy way to become a Councillor?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted February 15 Author Report Share Posted February 15 Yes they have - woke middle class politicians now dominate the Con/Lib/Lab uni-party and take the lead off the WEF. 😑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 On 2/15/2024 at 11:27 PM, Observer II said: Yes they have - woke middle class politicians now dominate the Con/Lib/Lab uni-party and take the lead off the WEF. 😑 No they have not, woke to you is anyone with a different opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted February 20 Author Report Share Posted February 20 Time you woke up ! 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 34 minutes ago, Observer II said: Time you woke up ! 😆 Time you stopped watching way out opinion on you tube, or at least try to fact check it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted February 20 Author Report Share Posted February 20 The people I watch on Youtube are ex-professional military or CIA operatives, who know what they're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 43 minutes ago, Observer II said: The people I watch on Youtube are ex-professional military or CIA operatives, who know what they're talking about. Well going off what you spout on here, no they don't. and you take their opinion as fact, and don't bother to check it, before swallowing it hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted February 20 Author Report Share Posted February 20 No, that you, a complete mushroom, kept in the dark and fed crap by a lazy and woke MSM. 😑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 17 minutes ago, Observer II said: No, that you, a complete mushroom, kept in the dark and fed crap by a lazy and woke MSM. 😑 You need to learn the difference between facts and opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted February 20 Author Report Share Posted February 20 You no longer get facts in the MSM, just opinion, with the addition of woke propaganda, so idiots like you can suck it up. 😑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted February 20 Report Share Posted February 20 21 minutes ago, Observer II said: You no longer get facts in the MSM, just opinion, with the addition of woke propaganda, so idiots like you can suck it up. 😑 Yes you do get facts, just because you don't like them, does not mean they are not facts, you have heard of fact checking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observer II Posted February 20 Author Report Share Posted February 20 The western media has been clinging to the delusion that Ukraine could win this war, and pumped out propaganda accordingly; now reluctantly changing their tune in the face of reality. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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