observer Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Seems the UKBF are failing to register 30% of folk entering the UK, and the E-system isn't helping. I'm presuming the technology exists to provide a system that accounts for all entrants and departures? EG: On cruise ships, everyone is issued with an ID card, which is swiped when you leave the ship and again when you return; thus the crew can account for all passengers; why can't they produce such a system for HMS UK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 9, 2013 Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 How would that work for people who enter the country illegally then Obs? Just asking because I don't understand your reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2013 Apparently it isn't working for legal entrants Asp, hence the news item. The Gov require the figures to provide accurate data on net immigration. Presumably E-passports or an E-ID card system could register all individuals entering or leaving via ports and airports, it could flag up criminal or terrorist suspects, and those that over-stay their visas, or whom don't have a legitimate visa.. As for "illegals", those arriving under trucks etc, won't be recorded; but neither would they be able to prove they were legal, in which case they could be returned to sender.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 When it also emerged the other day that the department responsible deleted almost 650,000 alerts relating to potential drug and tobacco smuggling into the UK were deleted without being read it is no surprise that nobody knows who is coming or going or even what is coming or going! It was also found that the e-Borders programme had not delivered planned increases in passenger data collection, with only 65% of all passenger movements into and out of the UK covered, due to complications surrounding European law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 10, 2013 Report Share Posted October 10, 2013 What would those complications be Baz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 1. Get out of the EU. 2. Get out of the ECHR. 3. Prioritise all jobs for British born nationals, failiure to take up a job to result in loss of dole. 4. No entry for immigrants who can't read and write English and who haven't secured employment. 5. Immediate deportation from the point of capture for any illegal immigrant (without recourse to law and legal aid funded by the taxpayer). 6. All asylum applications dealt with by British Embassies in the next safest country to that being fled from, not in the UK. Sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockcutting Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 It sounds to me that you are all recomending a police state........ Ok, it may be a reasonable idea, but who is going to Police it? The UK Police are pretty good at their job at the moment but how much pressure are you expecting the bobby on the beat to have to deal with? Don't forget that Cameron and Nick are slashing Police budgets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 18, 2013 Report Share Posted October 18, 2013 1. ...... failiure to take up a job to result in loss of dole. Doesn't that now alreay apply Obs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2013 Not sure Diz, as it doesn't seem to influence the behaviour of some - maybe they've all had lottery wins?! Rock: this is primarily the responsibility of the UKBF; however all agencies should be acting in concert to enforce a rational immigration policy - assuming we ever get one ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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