Dizzy Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 The bloody EU again..... They are now trying to to change our tough animal welfare laws on animal testing !! http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/253655 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 I don't see stray pets actually being rounded up and used for this. If a drug company wants to test a new drug on animals then they're going to need to know the full medical histories of all their test subjects in order to avoid confusing results caused by an animal's underlying medical conditions. That's not going to be possible with strays, so they'll continue sourcing known healthy animals specifically bred for the labs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 I am against testing cosmetics on animals, But I do support the testing of drugs on animals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 So Kije agrees with his UK masters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Good point Inky. But that sort of worries me in another way. If the EU are already testing in this way then how do we know their findings are correct. It's not only about strays though, there are worries that there will be an increase in non-approved puppy and cat farms as they would start breeding purely for the sale to the testing companies. At present that is not allowed for both animal welfare and also health reasons. I do sometimes wish the EU would just sod off and I wonder if our government will have the backbone to refuse their latest demand. We have until 2013 to sign up I believe.... and what if we don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 This is at the bottom of the article. Under the EU directive, member states can retain their own laws providing they were in place by last November. Which the UK's were, So no problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Yes but it also says.......... "However, while the Home Office has indicated it wants to maintain its current restrictions including a ban on the use of strays, it has not explicitly ruled out adopting weaker European standards. It also insists that parts of the directive will actually improve British standards. But animal welfare groups claim the Government?s recent U-turn on a ban on wild animals in circuses means it cannot be trusted." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 I think that we have a bunch of eunuchs in Parliament along with the stupid Civil Service. Yes Minister did things better than this lot of nomarks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 The EU also had a rule about not recycling dead cows, back into the food chain ie not feeding dead cows to cows. one rule we ignored. A rule the UK new best and ignored and cost people their lives and the farmers millions. The EU does not get everything right but neither doe the UK. Dizzy it has not explicitly ruled them out, which you could turn round and say it has not explicitly ruled them in either. When reading articles you need to know where they come from, This one comes from an anti European paper, its another scare story like the one about our Bananas were not curved enough to meet EU standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 19, 2011 Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Perhaps we need a European Convention on ANIMAL Rights?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Dizzy it has not explicitly ruled them out, which you could turn round and say it has not explicitly ruled them in either. When reading articles you need to know where they come from, This one comes from an anti European paper, its another scare story like the one about our Bananas were not curved enough to meet EU standards. Fair point (perhaps) LT I dont read that many papers to determine which way they bend when it comes to their reporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex padgate girl Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 They should not test anything on animals. they should test them on some of the scroats in prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 They should not test anything on animals. they should test them on some of the scroats in prison. Hello EPG, long time no post. I hope you are well. Still at the same firm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 They should not test anything on animals. they should test them on some of the scroats in prison. Good idea but obviously not one that they could do because of HR etc. If prisoners can claim compo for not having a comb or tv just think what their lawyers would claim for the odd 'injection' or 'chemical' dropped in their eyes Personally speaking I think that anyone who has intentionally murdered, injured or inflicted 'acts' upon others (especially on kids) SHOULD be used for testing pursposes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I think the UN would not be to pleased about that idea either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 20, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Which is sort of what I just said Lt K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceC Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 If drugs are tested on animals ... traps should be tested on humans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahl Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Test new drugs on members of the eu that suggest ed the scheme. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex padgate girl Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Hello EPG, long time no post. I hope you are well. Still at the same firm? Yes still with the same place just a different job. Sooooo busy i hardly get time to look in anymore. I get really annoyed that when it comes to animals they get no say in the matter. At least a scroat can scream its objections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted June 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I vote for a combination of Ex Padgate Girl's, RoyceC's and Wahl's suggestions. Sounds fair enough to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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