observer Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Any ideas?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymaillman Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Little bighorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 On June 25, 1876, George Armstrong Custer and the 265 men under his command lost their lives in the Battle of Little Big Horn, often referred to as Custer's Last Stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymaillman Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Against which native Indian chiefs ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demelzadoe Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse? I'm expected to know all this being married to someone of native American origin, admittedly I'm reaching here. --- I would ask him but I know I would be in for a three hour seminar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 On June 25, 1876, George Armstrong Custer and the 265 men under his command lost their lives in the Battle of Little Big Horn, often referred to as Custer's Last Stand. Watched Custer of the West the other weekend which I first saw as a child on the big screen in about 1970. Tended to glorify Custer's last stand which most historians reckon were the actions of a madman! Having said that I have always been fascinated with the 7th Calvary, the Battle of Little Big Horn e.t.c. - I used to love playing Cowboys and Indians and still have my toy soldiers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Custer was a pompous idiot!! That is my opinion - no better than Andrew Jackson!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Basically a nutter, of the head down and charge variety Mary! He committed two glaring failiures in terms of military tactics: closing with the enemy rather than the planned link up with Gen Terry and other forces: and dividing his own force infront of the enemy; thus allowing his piecemeal defeat. He was earlier noted for one particular tactic, which saved him from being wiped out' which was to shield his men with captured squaws, so the enemy wouldn't attack him. Sadly his defeat galvanised civilised opinion into supporting a campaign that almost wiped out the American Indian, ending in tragedies like Wounded Knee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Exactly - oh and Observer the word squaw is from thee Algonquin and it means a womans umm female parts - its not a nice word at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 I believe Robert Shaw played Custer in the movie cited above. He wore buckskin and affected a non-british accent, of course. The highlight of the film for me was not the familiar story, but the special log ride when a lumberjack soldier gets chased by Indians and rides the water contraption -- must have been Cinerama or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 I believe Robert Shaw played Custer in the movie cited above. He wore buckskin and affected a non-british accent, of course. The highlight of the film for me was not the familiar story, but the special log ride when a lumberjack soldier gets chased by Indians and rides the water contraption -- must have been Cinerama or something. Was a stunning piece of camera work but seeing it the other week was like seeing it for the first time. The only scenes I can remember from my childhood was Custer's Indian Scout getting an arrow through his neck and Custer putting his arms in the air and screaming as the Indians Finished him off, even though Sitting Bull, apparently would have spared his life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 I believe Robert Shaw played Custer in the movie cited above. He wore buckskin and affected a non-british accent, of course. The highlight of the film for me was not the familiar story, but the special log ride when a lumberjack soldier gets chased by Indians and rides the water contraption -- must have been Cinerama or something. Was a very good scene! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Sitting Bull, was basically a shamen, who had united the Sioux and Cheyenne into fighting to protect the black hills from the white man. His vision of the battle, said that the indians should not strip the enemy dead after the battle or it would bring bad luck - they did, and they've had bad luck ever since! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerman Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 I have somewhere in the house an old t-shirt with a cartoon of Native Americans standing in a circle gloating, with the caption underneath, saying, CUSTER'S LAST VIEW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 That might have been a Gary Larson cartoon. I know he did one with a 10 month old baby standing up in a crib -- with the caption: Custer's First Stand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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