observer Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 A usefull avenue for learning OR an opportunity for cut and paste plagerism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Useful but not always 100% right and anyone can add to the info or update it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Like Dizzy, its useful, but not always right. But it gives you other places to look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 But, should students have an overall understanding of their subject and have mentally absorbed it; or is fishing out relevent bits to pass an exam a satisfactory form of education? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Students have always done that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 ...... since the introduction of the net and wikipedia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 No always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 So what happened to being taught in class, absorbing the information, increasing on such information through book reading and then taking an exam, for which you could be asked anything about the full subject range? Or does education now exist solely for the purpose of training folk to pass the next exam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 But Obs even you must know that you can gain information from more places than just classroom books ... I actually don't know what you are wittering on about now  I bet you have learned a lot more since the invention of and your access to..... "the internet" than you did in school  How many exams did you pass and how many do you recon you would pass if you got called back to take take them tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 They are taught in class, they do read books and they do take exams, and you could be asked anything about the full subject range, The internet is just an extra tool for them. You might find this hard to believe but they no longer use quills in school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 The issue is one of real knowledge or plagerism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Go and read a book Obs its getting late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Read them all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted January 15, 2011 Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 You can start on the Ladybird books now then Obs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2011 Nah, I'll stick to informative TV progs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Tell me obs how did you discover Wikipedia, perhaps by searching the net, or perhaps somone told you about it, Oh! then you searched the net. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Actually Algy, I find "the net" quite a boring experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Settle Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 A usefull avenue for learning OR an opportunity for cut and paste plagerism? Â Both, but you may plagerise incorrect facts and then you will get caught out. This has always gone on when students copied directly from books, the internet just makes it easier to do and easier to get found out. Depends on how alert the Professor or Teacher is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 .. or how lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Actually Algy, I find "the net" quite a boring experience. Â Considering you find it boring you are on it enought Obs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 only on here though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 I think your one who slipped through the NET obs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 only on here though! Â What a saddo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Careful obs, you now have Geoff back on your case as well as Kije. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 I feel quite sorry for Obs.... his 'learning' must be quite limited if it is done purely through his own choice of books and tv programmes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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