tonymaillman Posted March 15, 2008 Report Posted March 15, 2008 To the date today, died aged 56 in the year 44 BC ........ Quote
tonymaillman Posted March 15, 2008 Author Report Posted March 15, 2008 Beware the Ides of March Quote
observer Posted March 15, 2008 Report Posted March 15, 2008 ... Beware friends and relations bearing knives (behind you!) - "ET TU BRUTI ?" Quote
Mary Posted March 15, 2008 Report Posted March 15, 2008 TMM we must be on the same wave length - I almost started a thread just like this one a few hours ago - and then thought Ahh is Saturday and everyone is into footie!! So glad you started it! Quote
indy Posted March 15, 2008 Report Posted March 15, 2008 As strange as it may seem as part of my latest discoveries I have uncovered a coin of his adopted son Augustus whilst out working on my new site ... Quote
tonymaillman Posted March 15, 2008 Author Report Posted March 15, 2008 I'd be a lot more interested if you discovered some squamata scales or segmentata plates ....... even any hamata links ever found any cingula studs ? Quote
tonymaillman Posted March 16, 2008 Author Report Posted March 16, 2008 Maybe even some hamata hooks/clasps ?? Quote
tonymaillman Posted March 18, 2008 Author Report Posted March 18, 2008 Bronze squamata scales would be a good find more likely to find the tinned iron ones though ......... if any at all ! Quote
indy Posted March 18, 2008 Report Posted March 18, 2008 TMM, what do u know of solid bronze 'S' shape brooches/ cloak clasps in the form of a huge sepent with scales ?? By the way its not a Dragonesque brooch..... or a sword scabard and it came from an area producing many Roman Republican silver coinage ? Quote
observer Posted March 19, 2008 Report Posted March 19, 2008 What's the written historical evidence for the location of Roman troops in the area? The invasion of 70ish AD, appeared to have been conducted in phases, with the Brigantes (a Roman Client) being left for a while, north of the Mersey; so perhaps, aside from a Legionary Fort at Chester, some outposts would have existed? :confused: Quote
indy Posted March 19, 2008 Report Posted March 19, 2008 Yes I agree !!!! watch this space as i am currently working on a possible marching camp  [ 19.03.2008, 00:29: Message edited by: indiana James ] Quote
tonymaillman Posted March 19, 2008 Author Report Posted March 19, 2008 Depends what you class as an 'outpost'. The nearest marching camps unearthed to date are located at Malton, Gleadthorpe and Water Eaton. Personally i don't think you'll be 'hitting' upon a marching camp. Why ? because you have auxiliary forts to close at hand to need a marching camp. There were 3 main auxilliaries very close to here at Northwich, Manchester and Kirkham. Your main forts then being Chester and Wroxeter. I've stated before that what you may be finding is 'marching losses' or dropped items - very common for people to lose stuff easily back then. Or, 'possibly' a trading post or occassional market area. Definitely not military. As for the brooch, just because it's found amongst other Roman stuff doesn't necessarily mean it's Roman in production. It could be Celtic or even iron age, it may be a 'robbed' item then lost by a Roman. Depends how it's pinned also, can usually tell by the pin, Roman brooches were mainly unique types of pin construction, therefore without seeing it I cannot make an accurate judgement Serpent shapes, swirls etc were common amongst the ordovice, Brigantes of the area - either in bronze or iron, although iron was rarer for this type of item. Quote
tonymaillman Posted March 19, 2008 Author Report Posted March 19, 2008 James - with regards to the brooch, what length is it ? it may well be an 'S' fibula (common around the 1st/2nd century AD) OR dependant if the pin is integral it could be based upon the La Tene Celtic fibula. I've made similar ones to these before, but the 'S' fibula is usually snake/serpent headed at each end with 'scales' incorporated into the casting, most of these though tend to be quite small - i.e up to 2 or 2 and a half inches long. Quote
indy Posted March 19, 2008 Report Posted March 19, 2008 TMM, it is a one piece item but is a staggering 100mm in length. It has heavy scales cast into it. I will try to e-mail you aphoto Quote
tonymaillman Posted March 19, 2008 Author Report Posted March 19, 2008 Very nice find ......... Quote
indy Posted March 19, 2008 Report Posted March 19, 2008 Your opinion on the bronze serpent ???? :confused: Quote
tonymaillman Posted March 19, 2008 Author Report Posted March 19, 2008 Yes ....... check yer e mails. Quote
indy Posted March 20, 2008 Report Posted March 20, 2008 Thanks for your e mails Tony, sent you a reply. Certainly food for thought. A real puzzler at the moment but I tend to agree with you about possible iron age.... Viking would be to much to hope for Quote
tonymaillman Posted March 20, 2008 Author Report Posted March 20, 2008 No problem James ....... I now really think it could be of iron age/pictish origin (both would be fitting amongst Roman finds). I'll see what more stuff I have ....... let me know if you come across any more bronze items, ALL bronze items are unique ! Excellent piece by the way. Quote
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