Peter T Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 What happened to Geography lessons? The good old days were the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Kennedy Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 Ah but many foreigners...and indeed some of our "homegrowns" get confused with the difference between England, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, many thinking all three are one and the same.......indeed in Fife, there are people there who refer to it as the Kingdom of Fife and exclude the word Scotland.....wonder if they will declare UDI if in the unlikely event Scotland goes Independent.....might of course choose to remain part of The Union Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerman Posted May 25, 2007 Report Share Posted May 25, 2007 It will be like Tony Blair's infamous website forum 7 years ago, when idiots were calling for independence for Cornwall, London, the North of England, Shetland, Yorkshire, or calling for this region and that region to be expelled from the UK, one crazy Londoner said that everyone north of Watford should be expelled from the UK as they were not English, then there was the quarrel in which Scots said they weren't British but Scottish, and English berks arguing with other English berks about whether the English weren't British or were the only British. I was told I was neither British nor Irish and had no right to live in either island, I was both an IRA man and a UVF or UFF man at the same time, and a traitor to Ulster by Paisleyites, oh, that forum was insane! (Mention the 10 Downing Street Speaker's Corner Forum to those in the know and they crack up at the thought of it. I remember a couple of years ago someone mentioning it on BBC Question Time and just the mention of the forum caused a huge roar of laughter from the audience, for obvious reasons, because of the internet wingnuts who messed that site up.) :biggrinbounce: Â On a more serious note which is relevant to this thread, my brother agreed with what Obbs said about the deluge, was saying that there are now 48 languages spoken in Northern Ireland, on one day at a Tesco a mile away from my house at Knocknagoney he could not make out a word or accent anyone was saying as they were all foreign, I have noticed Polish food sections are appearing in the supermarkets, as well as that I saw that one entire Polish food store is open in Armagh. My brother also told me that there is an area in England, I don't know where, where a staggering 82 languages are spoken! Make no mistake about it: there is a social change going on in this country of seismic proportions. I cannot see how it can be reversed, but hopefully these people within 2 to 3 generations will be firmly British and showing Britain and Ireland's ability to absorb immigrants once again. But there is no doubt that it is happening on a scale too large to control. These people need to be monitored and registered, etc., just like we natives are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 The key word in all this is: "managed" migration; which was supposed to be the Government's Policy; alas it probably went into the bin along with "ethical" foreign policy etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerman Posted May 26, 2007 Report Share Posted May 26, 2007 New Labour will be getting a headache reading that post- it's too straightforward and right on for them to cope with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 I forgot to add: as/when and if there is an economic downturn, and unemployment strikes; ALL unemployed visa holders should be thanked for their contribution and their visas expired; thus saving on state benefits and social disruption. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerman Posted May 27, 2007 Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 Errr, what if the Visa holders were unfairly fired from their jobs? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 27, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2007 Presumably they have recourse to employment tribunerals/unions etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerman Posted May 28, 2007 Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 Don't forget the problem of economic persecution. Curious thing, though, all these more useless people are getting in, yet the Government have a thing now against Indian doctors. Velly velly stlange! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2007 Maybe because they've gone and trained a load of our own Doctors; and now don't have jobs for them?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerman Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 I doubt that- there's a shortage of doctors, not a surplus! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 To be precise: there is a shortage of staffing posts for Doctors; due to NHS cut-backs. Doctors have been trained (possibly not/never enough) but will now have to consider taking their skills abroad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerman Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Well keep them here AND the Indian doctors, then! (And end the ludicrous system of too many working hours for junior doctors; an idiotic system if ever there was one!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmless loony Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Hysteria again - get a grip people!!!! Â To the person who doesn't feel safe because we have immigrants coming into this country - seriously what are you on? You tried walking in town on a Friday or Saturday night? I'd feel safer walking into a room full of immigrants than a street full of drunken lager louts - who all appear to be from the indigenous population! Â There are more people claiming off the state who are White British then are from an immigrant background - fact - so how about we deal with our homegrown "spongers" before complaining about others? Just because you are born here - it shouldn't entitle you you to an automatic right to claim. Take a walk around Longford, Orford and Grasmere and tell me the profile of those living in the area. Look at the ethnic profile of those currently claiming housing in Warrington and tell me the real results not the perceived Daily Mail trash. Â Like OMG OMG we're being swamped omg we're all going to die!!!! Â And let's not tar all immigrants with the same brush thank you very much. Some of us immigrants (and children of immigrants) work bloody hard, pay our taxes and contribute to the economy. Â If all of us immigrants buggered off to our "homelands" tomorrow let's just say the UK would be in a very big state of doo doo. Perhaps it's not a bad idea - it may just well teach you all a lesson you need to learn! Â I was mugged by a white British man when I was in London last year - and it didn't motivate me to start a thread on how white british men are all thieving so and sos because you know what - I'm not stupid enough to judge a whole nation by the actions of one prat. Â Go and open up your newspaper and look at all the bad news stories - how many have white british perpertrators and how many have ethnic minority perpertrators? Perhaps people should be starting threads on how scary these White British people are! Â And let's not forget the British started the trend of landing in other countries - America (originally the home of the Native Americans), Australia (originally the home of the Aborigines) - by what legal mandate did people land in those countries? The first act of illegal immigration perhaps? Did we ask the permission of the indigenous population of those countries before entering and making ourselved at home? So what makes you think you'll have a God given right to be in the position to grant permission? If you will set a bad example...... Â Seriously there are bigger issues at stake at the moment such as the deprivation in areas of the UK, such as the way money is being wasted continually by our government, such as the way our freedoms are being eroded by our corrupt and power hungry politicians and yet all we can debate about is immigration and logos....jeeeeezzz.... Â Yes I agree borders should be better controlled but no I don't believe immigrants are the cause of all our social and economic ills. Â PS: Can we kindly ensure that we make a clear distinction between illegal and legal immigrants? Oh and make sure you know the difference between an asylum seeker and a refugee - it'll make the debate more interesting if you looked into the legal definitions and understood exactly what they imply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerman Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Yeah, like the way I quake at the sight of the Polish men hogging the bus, errr, not! They are too hard-working and have been through far too much to be thinking about attacking the natives, they simply want to survive and get a better life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 You're back then. Feel better? Read between the lines and "understand" the comments which are very varied. No-one is ignoring the "English" stats, just concerned that they are being added to by people coming over her without a job to go to and have mouths to feed. I remember a couple of years (I think) back, when this invasion started, that you were saying how good it was for the economy and your pension. I wonder if you think the same now? By the way, I thought you were English? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmless loony Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Missed me have you? Don't get used to it! I'm disappearing off again soon but thought I'd give the Gman a run for his money with a long post before I go! Â I am British by nationality, English by birth, Muslim by religion, European by culture, Asian by memory, International by philosophy. In short I'm a citizen of the world. Â I understand what you're saying and I don't disagree - I just despair when people go to extremes about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 31, 2007 Report Share Posted May 31, 2007 Originally posted by harmless loony:Â Â I am British by nationality, English by birth, Muslim by religion, European by culture, Asian by memory, International by philosophy. In short I'm a citizen of the world. Â [/QB] That's scary. Do you know who you are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerman Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 And I'm British, Irish, Ulster and European! And this posting is short! Â Oh, and as a raspberry/bronx cheer to my English friends, I am an indigenous ethnic minority! :biggrinbounce: Â [ 01.06.2007, 09:56: Message edited by: Goonerman ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted June 1, 2007 Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 G'man. Does that mean we can pick on you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 1, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2007 No such thing as a "second generation" immigrant; if your born here from legitimate immigrants; your British. The right of a Nation to control/administer itself and to say who enters it's territory, was the reason a generation fought the last World War; or perhaps we should have recognised the human rights of the Germans to goose step through London?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerman Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 Perhaps it does, Peter, but then I can crush you in debate three times over each time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 That's not difficult, however, you can lead a horse to water..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 2, 2007 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 errm, and when you've finished talking to yourself Gman?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goonerman Posted June 2, 2007 Report Share Posted June 2, 2007 Peter's responses suggest otherwise, as does your nonsensical contribution! Â PS Observer is not my sockpuppet! Â [ 02.06.2007, 15:32: Message edited by: Goonerman ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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