Bazj Posted April 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 I do agree with you Ricky that Portugal, Greese and a few other states should not have joined and will suffer in the short and medium terms oh that's OK then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Perhaps, seeing that "they will suffer, in the short and medium term" - they (the people) should be allowed to decide (by referendum) whether they want to get out of it?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 They voted to go in, It was their governments that cocked up by cooking the books to make it look like they were ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 You know "they" voted to "go in" - like we "voted" for Brown to sign the Lisbon Treaty?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 The euro will be around next year and the year after, I do agree with you Ricky that Portugal, Greese and a few other states should not have joined and will suffer in the short and medium terms and yet they would only suffer very short term if they had their own currencies (by devaluing it). talking about referendums, I was speaking to a fellow eurosceptic from Denmark the other day, they are about to have a 6th referendum on the euro. So even if you voted no for something, wheather its on the EU consitution, or the euro, if you gave the wrong answer, you'll be subjected to referendum after referendum until you give the correct result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 17, 2011 Report Share Posted April 17, 2011 It would cost the countries millions more now to get out the Euro, and their dept would still be in Euros and still have to be paid back. They would end up more in dept than they are now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 go Kije...... it is starting!! http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Rise-Of-Anti-Euro-True-Finn-Party-Sounds-Warning-To-Euro-Zone-Nations-Over-Single-Currency-Troubles/Article/201104315974575?lpos=Business_Third_Home_Page_Article_Teaser_Region__4&lid=ARTICLE_15974575_Rise_Of_Anti-Euro_True_Finn_Party_Sounds_Warning_To_Euro_Zone_Nations_Over_Single_Currency_Troubles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted April 19, 2011 Report Share Posted April 19, 2011 It would cost the countries millions more now to get out the Euro, and their dept would still be in Euros and still have to be paid back. They would end up more in dept than they are now. Its a damn sight better than this constant motion of bailout after bailout, short term pain for long term gain. The euro is collapsing so they will have to go to their own currencies sooner or later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Seems that in this age of austerity, the Euro Commission want a budget INCREASE of 4.9% . Boy George has rightly kicked off against it, BUT will he win the day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 Seems that in this age of austerity, the Euro Commission want a budget INCREASE of 4.9% . Boy George has rightly kicked off against it, BUT will he win the day? NO. Cast Iron will declair a victory because hes only giving them a 3% increase instead of the 4.9 % (like last year). This sort of thing winds me up. We scrapped brand new aircraft because we cannot afford it. We scrap a school building project because we cannot afford it, We cut front line services because we cannot afford it, yet we can give the EUSSR an year on year increase on the ?17 billion/yr bill (gross). An unelected comissioner appeared on newsnight trying to justify the increase, some good questions from the BBC, which is suprising since an ex EU comissioner runs it now, but hey, lifes full of them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iej66xvSOyI its the usual crap about how EU money is used to fund projects in the UK, what he forgets is that we can do these projects without the EU, and have several billion/yr saved! (britain being a net contributor) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 22, 2011 Report Share Posted April 22, 2011 I know, and they've actually dared to discuss the regular move of the EU parliament from Brussels to Strasbourg and visa versa. Needless to say, the Frogs are up in arms as it will affect them. Likewise the CAP, your dealing with vested national interests, only the UK doesn't appear too good at it. :twisted:PS Notice the Frogs are trying to get the Shengen agreement suspended, while the Italians are trying to dump 20,000 Tunisians on them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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