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Can't build new coal fired power stations - greenhouse gases and all that.

 

Can't build wind farms fast enough - the NIMBYs won't allow it.

 

Can't build much more hydro - all the best sites are in National Parks.

 

Tidal barrages? - wetlands and wading birds.

 

Solar? - in this country????

 

Waste incinerators? - see wind farms.

 

Lots of nice shiny new Nuke stations it is then.

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Why worry. They'll all be living on the moon and eating protein pills for breakfast by then.

 

 

.........if they can tear themselves away from Facebook and Twitter long enough to invent anything!

 

 

And since it was my grandparents generation who bequeathed to us the current problems of decommisioning reactors which were built without the slightest thought given to how they could be taken apart again, it seems only fair to send a few technical challenges of our own off down the river of time for future generations to solve.

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Hydro will not work, you loose to much power down the lines transporting it to where it is needed.

 

The same with tidal good for Bristol no where else

 

Coal fine

 

Nuclear fine

 

Wind farms no good for Birmingham and the south

 

The only trouble with coal is you have to buy the coal from abroad so you are still dependent on other countries. And no you can not re-open the coal mines you could if they had been moth balled but not now they have been shut and flooded.to be independent on energy you have to go nuclear. but even on that you now have to depend on the French to biuld them :wink:

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We're standing on 1,000s of years supply of coal, which is now being mined in some areas from open-cast sites; but no doubt where viable, new pits can be opened - after all they'll want somewhere to bury all the radio-active waste from the nuke stations! :roll:

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I don't know :wink:

 

But that is why there are no new mines being opened, just how much are you prepaired to pay for your energy Obs :?::wink: and who will pay for the people that cannot afford to pay double or more than they do now, Any government would have to take that into account. Its easy to spout, its alot harder when you have to take the need of the whole population into account. We have enough old people dieing of cold without your uncosted solutions into account :!:

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"Uncosted" cos I havn't got access to the financial projections; but what we can project is a National dependency on other Countries (in this case Russia) for our energy requirements - Bulgaria, which realies solely on GazProm supply was denied any energy supply last winter. :shock: Austria, has built a 4 month gas storage capacity, ironically 30% built and owned by GazProm. :roll: It's called being prepared for all contigencies Kyje; rather than, in the liberal tradition, sleep-walking into future crisis. :roll::wink:

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How will you insure old people don't die of cold Obs or are going to bring in euthanasia so they wont be a problem. As you know many old people can not afford heating now.

 

How much more are you willing to pay for energy so as to make us energy independent. give me a figure :!:

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in order to assure heating for those old folk.

 

They are struggling to pay now.

Let me put it another way as you are struggling to understand. Would you yourself be willing to pay double or more on your energy bill each year if it ment the UK was energy self sufficient. Yes or No :?:

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Your premise is incorrect, as YOU dont KNOW that it would be more expensive, and neither have you considered such possibilities as increasing insulation to achieve energy reduction or the subsidising of energy costs - no, in a typical liberal way, you won't identify a situation until it hits you between the eyes! :roll:

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:wink:

Getting back to the point,From what I can see and it is only a personal opiniun Obs is it is because of the Russian problem that after years of sitting on the fence this government is now biulding nuclear power stations. It looks like the first ones will be at Sizewell and Hinkley Point. Better late than never :wink:

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