Lt Kije Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 The armed services were cut after a strategic revue Baz, the government assed the risk and cut accordingly , and as I said that discussion is for another thread, the email that algy re posted, was meant to pluck at the heart strings with its orphans references ect. Sad that some people would actually fall for it, may be next time they will see through it , or at least look a little deeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 The armed services were cut after a strategic revue Baz, the government assed the risk and cut accordingly , and as I said that discussion is for another thread, the email that algy re posted, was meant to pluck at the heart strings with its orphans references ect. Sad that some people would actually fall for it, may be next time they will see through it , or at least look a little deeper. Woah! there Tonto, you have as usual selected part of a post that you can manipulate to suit your preferences, you have failed to address the fact that we are giving billons of aid to other countries when we could best use that revenue in house, I have asked you to address the question as has Baz and in both instances you have skirted round the subject, so as far as I'm concerned either you frightened of the truth or you haven't a clue whats going on!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Yes we give money to gap foreign countries, we do so to improve infer structure and at it base level to feed the population of those countries,, some foreign aid is used as a bribe, we give in order to receive, most aid is though used for its true purpose. Foreign Aid saves lives, and helps get the Uk trade, which in turn provides jobs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Yes we give money to gap foreign countries, we do so to improve infer structure and at it base level to feed the population of those countries,, some foreign aid is used as a bribe, we give in order to receive, most aid is though used for its true purpose. Foreign Aid saves lives, and helps get the Uk trade, which in turn provides jobs Well that makes everything ok then, we use our money to give to countries so that we able to provide jobs to produce goods that we have given these countries finance to purchase the products that we are going to lose money on, that sounds like a perfectly brilliant economic strategy, no wonder we are going down hill without any brakes, have you thought about setting up in the finance sector El Tea. PS. have you been on the sherry again?. :lol: Edit. Been thinking things over, I think I'll bugger off downstairs you lot are too clever for the likes of me up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Algy If it did not work we would not do it, and why do you think we loose money on exports, or were you just trying to be funny. All governments from all political colours and all developed Countries do it, including China, if you think the EDL are right vote for them, but I suggest you re read it and see how simple they make it sound, they put in orphans and War Veterans to pull at your heart strings. Their is a good reason why all developed Countries do it. It saves lives and off the back of the aid it opens doors for trade, which does protect UK interests and pays your pension. As it is people who are working now that pay for your state pension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 Might help if we had some kind of cost benefit analysis, to see whether this arrangement is mutually beneficial - somehow, I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Might help if we had some kind of cost benefit analysis, to see whether this arrangement is mutually beneficial - somehow, I doubt it. Correct!! Assumption is the worst form of estimation!. ---------and Lt., I really do have a sense of humour . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Statistics Obs, how many times on here have you called them? Also are you saying their is no link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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observer Posted August 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Kije, we shouldn't be surprised at your defence of this non-accountable waste of tax-payer's money; after all, you support the EU, and they haven't had their books signed off by the auditors for over a decade ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 States and Countries would not partake in it Obs if their was no return for them especially China, I cannot be held responsible for your pig ignorance on international affairs, that is solely down to your own inadequacy and not being able to see. If you think aid is given for just one reason, that being to keep people alive you are sadly out of date, we will in a capitalist world, very few do anything solely out of the goodness of their heart when it comes to giving money at State level. I would have presumed you would have already known this but it appears not, one begins to wonder if you have just lead a sheltered life or have you reached that stage in life where you have forgotten . In any case I thank all the deities that you never got a job in Internanal affairs, as we would have been invaded if you had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 States and Countries would not partake in it Obs if their was no return for them especially China, I cannot be held responsible for your pig ignorance on international affairs, that is solely down to your own inadequacy and not being able to see. If you think aid is given for just one reason, that being to keep people alive you are sadly out of date, we will in a capitalist world, very few do anything solely out of the goodness of their heart when it comes to giving money at State level. I would have presumed you would have already known this but it appears not, one begins to wonder if you have just lead a sheltered life or have you reached that stage in life where you have forgotten . In any case I thank all the deities that you never got a job in Internanal affairs, as we would have been invaded if you had. El Tea, there is a vast improvement in your content although you have let yourself down with your spelling (again), the first line you have put their instead of there , I shall accept that the word internanal is a typing error due to the emotional stress caused as a result of replying to Mr Obs. Grammar and spelling - 9/10. Remarks: A vast improvement on previous postings and replies, however you really need to raise the level of your concentration. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Algy Are you that desperate to be popular that you are pandering to Obs, I wouldn't bother just be yourself!! I had not got you down as a herd animal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Kije.... I have to say that in a popularity contest you would easily finish above Obs.... but well behind Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini... Just saying like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 I'm not here to be popular, I'm here to correct Observer's bullshit and to open people's eyes to his xenophobia, and his political protestations therein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 So, you've seen the balance sheets then Kije? You've no more of a clue than anyone else, and the point is (has been made by most posters), that our money should be better spent at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Obs, as most Western and some African Countries do it, their is some advantage to it, Or governments would not do it, The government has to make the decision spend the money domestically or try to seek advantage abroad. The fact that they have decided to spend it abroad looks like they are to put it crudely trying to buy trade agreements, which if successful will bring some jobs to the UK, you always fail to see the bigger picture. You should at least try to take your blinkers off every so often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Germany gives about half what we do and the States; even less the bigger picture is that it obviously isn't worth us giving all that money away if the bigger economic powers don't think it viable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Not sure about Germany Baz, but in 2012 America gave more than anyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 So in tangible terms Kije, what does all this overseas aid actually get us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/mar/20/uk-aid-spend-important-works http://www.theinformationdaily.com/2013/08/13/why-giving-money-to-bongo-bongo-land-is-good-for-us-too It is not my job to educate you in Workd affairs Obs, these links might just get you started, and might prompt you to open your eyes to the bigger World. Why did you ever think you might get elected, and do you blame te people for not voting for you, or yourself for ever thinking with your views you could get elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Well you can believe it if you want, but I'm afraid there was nothing about "tangible" benefits in those links, a lot of "notional" and "moral" argument though ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 As I said Obs, the intent was to get you started. It an education, is never o late to open your eyes to the bigger picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted August 13, 2013 Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Algy Are you that desperate to be popular that you are pandering to Obs, I wouldn't bother just be yourself!! I had not got you down as a herd animal El Tea, I am myself, how could I be anyone else, now then back to spelling do you mean a heard animal as in making a noise or a herd animal as in being together, one can never be certain when one is reading your replies!. And really, you ought to be ashamed of yourelf with your last reply you have slipped right back again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 13, 2013 Smoke and mirrors Kije, and you fall for it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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