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Seems the NUT are upset with Mr Gove, but I'm rather puzzled as to why?  If he's promoting the idea of "a back to basics" curriculum, that enables ALL kids to have sufficient knowledge of reading, writing and arithmetic to make them employable - what's the problem?

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Maybe the NUT are upset in case it exposes some teachers in a bad light & puts the problem firmly at the door of incompetent teachers as to why pupils are under achieving. Weren't there plans last year to compile competence tables of some sort regarding teachers  to see which ones were getting money under false pretences ?

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In order to build our way out of the current hole we're in; it's essential to improve our indigenous skills base; by producing professions and trades that are required by a growing and globally competitive economy; this isn't helped if kids are leaving our schools unable to read or write properly.

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There are hurdles to the 3 R's though in the form of all the electronic gadgetry  that  kids can work with ease while our generation are looking for the on/off switch. The calculator makes arithmetic obsolete ,phone text makes writing obsolete & teaches kids the value of abbreviations while computers can do anything under the sun & teach them how to spell the American way . Which of course is all very well till these  machines break down or are out of reach  then their whole comprehension of education is undermined.

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Whenever education standards fall or kids enter the workplace unable to read or write it's the teachers that get the blame. The fact is that the majority of kids can't be taught. They please themselves whether they turn up for school or not and what they do when they get there. Kids can ask to go to the 'toilet' 30 times a day if they wish and can't be refused, it's just noted down. If one kid decides to wreck the lesson nothing is done. If any kid is sent to the head, the head promptly sends them back because there is nothing that they can do. When Oftsed calls, all the troublemakers are given a day off or sent on a 'day trip'. Is it any wonder why we have so many 'outstanding' schools when half the kids aren't there on the assessment day. Wouldn't be a teacher for a gold clock.

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But Wolfie.... most of the teachers I speak to would not want a return to the situation of being able to admit corporal punishment because they themselves were not brought up in that sort of generation. They were brought up in a world that taught them that corporal punishment was child abuse and that kids should have rights and be respected; whereas we were brought up in a world where kids were second class citizens until they left school and where discipline was the order of the day. If you didn't work they threw you out; not mollycoddle you and convince you that even though you are thick; you can still get a degree

 

Today a teacher would never dream of punishing a child or telling them they weren't good enough. The real world is a major shock to kids these days whereas we had more of an idea of what to expect when we left for the jobs market!

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Never mentioned corporal punishment Baz, but the problem is there are so many kids whose education is being massively disrupted by the bad behaviour of other children, and the teachers can’t do anything about it.’ We are slowly letting the kids take over and schools have few meaningful options when faced with unruly pupils short of suspending them, and that's when the parents jump in and accuse the teacher and the school of being failures. 

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The only option is to get the small minority of unruly kids out of the mainstream, Cant see any government doing that, they have spent the last 30 years trying to stop suspensions ect. For the politicians its better and easier to blame the teachers, as Obs knows, throw enough mud and some sticks. They are hardly going to own up.

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When i was at school there were certain teachers who could maintain discipline in  class & others who couldn't ,but it was really only a minority of pupils that were disruptive ,the rest just  went along for the ride.As for special schools they are mostly now for kids who have been identified as being deficient in some medical (not mental) sense that makes them unruly. There are loads of causes that weren't known years ago that would have been addressed only by a bullying teacher or even commital to an asylum. Amazingly many of today's problem kids in special schools have many talents that normal people could only dream of & it is only due to an enlightened education system & understanding teachers that thing have changed over the last 40 years.

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There are hurdles to the 3 R's though in the form of all the electronic gadgetry  that  kids can work with ease while our generation are looking for the on/off switch. The calculator makes arithmetic obsolete ,phone text makes writing obsolete & teaches kids the value of abbreviations while computers can do anything under the sun & teach them how to spell the American way . Which of course is all very well till these  machines break down or are out of reach  then their whole comprehension of education is undermined.

 

Fountain pen ! All very well until they break - quills - that's what you need , you know where you are with a good supply of goose feathers!  :wink:  :P

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Did you have the regulation  issue wooden fountain pens with the separate ink well  at your school .We did for some of the time at Beamont.

 

bloody hell.... how old do you think I am??? It says Baz J not Algy!!! :lol:

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