Graz Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Algy, Apologies for the delay, (I've had internet provider problems), unfortunately I don't recall the Ship Inn and the Green Man pubs, I will look through the negatives over the next few days but I think they might have gone before my time. Regards, Graz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graz Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 The Packet House This pub is well documented on the internet, I wonder if it will be obliterated when the area gets re-developed A not high quality of it in the 70's. One thing you do notice between 'now' and 'then' is just how much street clutter there is these days, yesteryear was much tidier ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracey Bennett Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Very true about the street furniture, you can barely see the pub! I hope they don't knock it down, I seem to remember Algy raising a similar concern on another thread. I wonder what condition it's in inside? On a personal note, one of my distant relatives died in there in September 1903 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 What a sad state of affairs to see The Packet House all boarded up. Dr Bowden was my doctor in youger days. Top man! To be able to read all those signs 20 must be too much, maybe it should be 15 mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracey Bennett Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Wow, he must've had a long career! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Graz, thanks for the Packet house, brilliant!, that is the first descent picture I have seen of it as a Greenalls pub, so right about the lack of signs etc. and doesn't look so much better!, I reckon you must have taken that on a Sunday or bank holiday as there is a distinct lack of traffic and looks to be about mid-day, shadows short and sun from the south of the town. Interesting to note the pub has a potential for 18 windows, 4 were bricked up during construction to be opened up at a later date, this dates the pub as pre 1851 as the Window Tax was repealed in that year ( Window Tax 1696 - 1851). This photo shows the alterations carried out to the Packet house over the years. Door added to the south facing wall in Mersey street. The original atractive corner entrance removed and made into a double window. Shop on Bridge Street incorporated into the pub, probably a 'Beer Retailers' (later known as 'Off License). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Great pictures Graz and Algy. Do either of you know what the 4 storey building was to the right of the Packet House in both your older photos? Tracey.... sad story about the little boy. ........ and your reply to Cleo really made me giggle (sorry Cleo as I know you are not that ancient) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracey Bennett Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Lolol! What I mean was that the Dr clearly had a long career if he was practising in 1903 and still going about 10 minutes ago when Cleo was a lass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Well I wouldn't say he was young and I do recall him making a home visit to my mother when she was ill in bed. At that that time i would have been in my late teens. Quite possibly Dr Bowden Jnr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Lolol! What I mean was that the Dr clearly had a long career if he was practising in 1903 and still going about 10 minutes ago when Cleo was a lass I'll have you know Cleo is old enough to be you grandmother. Maybe great grandmother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 I'll have you know Cleo is old enough to be you grandmother. Maybe great grandmother. Hang on a minute are we talking about Cleo, the seductive, sultry Cleo, or Cleo 'Florence' here. Dizz. 1890 it was Thomas Stanley Carter a Corn Merchant, A typical multi storey corn merchants building. Also occupying the same building were Thomas Allen & Son, Plumbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracey Bennett Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 How long did Drs take to qualify? I would guess the youngest he could've been in 1903 was late 20s? I'm not sure when Drs retired, I guess if he worked through to his 60s possibly even 70s that brings us to the 1940/50s. Though as you say, it could've been Dr Bowden Jnr you remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 At least 5 years. Whichever he was he seemed pretty old to me in my young innocence. It appears these days that Drs are retiring in their late 50's, but, I do know of one doctor who was so old he had little patience for his patients and was far to outspoken to them. No-one liked seeing him and in the end the other doctors in the practice forced him out because they were getting too many complaints about him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davy51 Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 I seem to remember getting barred from there in the late 60's for casting aspertions on the quality of the ale . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Dizzy... found this photo of the Old Quay Tavern.... is this the place you remember?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Ooh sorry Baz somehow I missed that Yes that how I remember it more than how it was shown on the other pic that was posted. It's the black shed bit on the side that I remember the most for some reason. Thanks for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graz Posted March 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 The Broad Oak This is on the A57 heading out from Great Sankey on the left just before the Trigger Pond (on the right). As was, The Broad Oak, with the limited view you get from the road now, you would never guess this used to be a pub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Ooh sorry Baz somehow I missed that Yes that how I remember it more than how it was shown on the other pic that was posted. It's the black shed bit on the side that I remember the most for some reason. Thanks for that This bit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graz Posted March 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 The Legh Arms Here's another one I can't do another 'now' picture for due to memory lapse - can anyone shed light on where this used to be ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Graz it was in Mersey Street at the bottom of Rose & Crown Street, I have marked your photo and the map under it should help get your bearings. The shop on the right, boarded up was Douglas Gandy's the clog maker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 This bit? Yep.... that's more like it Baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted March 9, 2013 Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 I remember The Leigh Arms in Mersey Street but what the heck did that boarded up shop on the opposite corner used to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graz Posted March 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2013 Algy, Once again your illuminating maps hit the spot, it looks like the Legh Arms was along Mersey St. somewhere in between the Victoria Vaults and the Packet House. I'll get my bearings and take a 'now' pic for posterity. Once again thanks, Graz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 I remember The Leigh Arms in Mersey Street but what the heck did that boarded up shop on the opposite corner used to be? Cleo, I stated on my last reply (map and photo) it is Douglas Gandy's clog making shop!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peridot1 Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 Broad Oak was unusual in not having a bar - I think the pole and frame for the sign are still there amongst all that greenery... Peridot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.