Who's Next.

[algy]

Just announced that that Operation 'Yewtree' has trawled up yet another celebrity name - Dave Lee Travis has been arrested on 'Historical Sex Charges', whos next?.

[observer]

Getting a bit hairy then?!

[Peter T]

Getting a bit hairy then?!

 

obs. Pathetic comment.

[Cleopatra]

His name came up a few weeks ago and just like Freddie Starr, he vehemently denied any involvement - well he would, wouldn't he!?

[asperity]

Removed by me

[Lt Kije]

????????

[fugtifino]

That's nasty, asp.

 

You're conflating gay people with paedophiles, just as Cameron suggested people would.

 

That pic looks dodgy.

 

Tatchell has never advocated child abuse, he has drawn attention to the absurdity of the prosecution of, say, a sixteen year old having consensual sex with a fifteen year old.

 

I lost my cherry at 15, with a girl who was 14. There was no force or coercion by either of us.

 

Neither of us were, or turned out to be, paedos.

 

Get a grip folks.

[Cleopatra]

You are quite correct fugtifino. And this, I believe would be the original photo and poster:-

[fugtifino]

A virtual spotter's badge is winging it's way to you, cleo.

 

Oh, and just noticed his:

 

Harriet Harman (the hypocrite) used to work for PIE

 

No, she worked for the NCCL.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/4949555/Harriet-Harman-under-attack-over-bid-to-water-down-child-pornography-law.html#

[algy]

I lost my cherry at 15, with a girl who was 14. There was no force or coercion by either of us.

 

Flippin' eck! Fugs some lads had all the luck!

[asperity]

At the time Harman was legal officer for the NCCL PIE was affiliated to the NCCL.

 

This is an extract from a letter Tatchell wrote to the Guardian in 1997:

 

‘The positive nature of some child-adult sexual relationships is not confined to non-Western cultures. Several of my friends – gay and straight, male and female – had sex with adults from the ages of nine to 13. None feel they were abused. All say it was their conscious choice and gave them great joy.

 

‘While it may be impossible to condone paedophilia, it is time society acknowledged the truth that not all sex involving children is unwanted, abusive and harmful.’

 

 

Fugs, PIE isn't about condoning sexual relations between underage persons but rather about encouraging sexual relations between adults and minors so your sweet little tale of young love doesn't really apply.

[Cleopatra]

But what about the fake picture asperity? Making it look like Thatchel was campaigning for PIE, which he clearly wasn't doing and in fact was campaigning for freedom to be gay for gay people in Iran. Gay rights for Iranian gays

[fugtifino]

From the Telegraph link posted above:

 

“PIE had been excluded from the NCCL before she [Harman] became legal officer.”

 

However press cuttings from 1983 make it clear that it was still considered an “affiliate group”.

 

Regarding Tatchell, I'd be careful who you, er, get into bed with:

 

http://www.petertatchellfoundation.org/free-speech/nick-griffin-bnp-smear-critics

 

Edit, just found this:

 

http://www.petertatchell.net/lgbt_rights/age_of_consent/index.htm

[observer]

So what's a pederast then?

[asperity]

Fugs, methinks the gentleman protesteth too much. As for Nick Griffin, well he is a politician so anything he says must be treated with caution. :wink:

[fugtifino]

Tatchell has made a career out of protesting, that's what he does.

 

It's the BNP who came up with that doctored picture, so, yes.

[Bazj]

Peter Tatchell is a vile and odious individual.... if he wishes to campaign for the rights of gay men in Iran; let him go over to Iran and protest there instead of clogging up our streets with his pointless little marches.....

 

I'm sure Ivor Dinnerjacket will welcome him and his "foundation" with open arms

[Peter T]

Cleo, It wasn't the picture that I had a problem with, but the addition of words around the mouth. OK?

[fugtifino]

Disagree Baz, I'm probably more in tune with New Statesman readers who "...in 2006...voted him sixth on their list of "Heroes of our time" {Wiki).

 

A highly principled and brave man, imo.

[asperity]

You have set your sights low then Fugs.

[observer]

So are "pederasts" Gay or not?

[fugtifino]

asp - he's been a tireless campaigner for civil rights for decades, there are worse people to admire, just taking a look at the roll-call of his detractors is a good indicator for me.

 

obs:

 

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pederast

[Evil Sid]

So are "pederasts" Gay or not?

 

Not necessarily they may be bi sexual

[Cleopatra]

Pederasts are men (usually homosexual) who love having sex with young boys.

[observer]

Thanks Cleo, point made.