algy Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Just announced that that Operation 'Yewtree' has trawled up yet another celebrity name - Dave Lee Travis has been arrested on 'Historical Sex Charges', whos next?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Getting a bit hairy then?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Getting a bit hairy then?! obs. Pathetic comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 His name came up a few weeks ago and just like Freddie Starr, he vehemently denied any involvement - well he would, wouldn't he!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Removed by me 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 ???????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 That's nasty, asp. You're conflating gay people with paedophiles, just as Cameron suggested people would. That pic looks dodgy. Tatchell has never advocated child abuse, he has drawn attention to the absurdity of the prosecution of, say, a sixteen year old having consensual sex with a fifteen year old. I lost my cherry at 15, with a girl who was 14. There was no force or coercion by either of us. Neither of us were, or turned out to be, paedos. Get a grip folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 You are quite correct fugtifino. And this, I believe would be the original photo and poster:- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 A virtual spotter's badge is winging it's way to you, cleo. Oh, and just noticed his: Harriet Harman (the hypocrite) used to work for PIE No, she worked for the NCCL. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/4949555/Harriet-Harman-under-attack-over-bid-to-water-down-child-pornography-law.html# Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted November 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 I lost my cherry at 15, with a girl who was 14. There was no force or coercion by either of us. Flippin' eck! Fugs some lads had all the luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 At the time Harman was legal officer for the NCCL PIE was affiliated to the NCCL. This is an extract from a letter Tatchell wrote to the Guardian in 1997: ‘The positive nature of some child-adult sexual relationships is not confined to non-Western cultures. Several of my friends – gay and straight, male and female – had sex with adults from the ages of nine to 13. None feel they were abused. All say it was their conscious choice and gave them great joy. ‘While it may be impossible to condone paedophilia, it is time society acknowledged the truth that not all sex involving children is unwanted, abusive and harmful.’ Fugs, PIE isn't about condoning sexual relations between underage persons but rather about encouraging sexual relations between adults and minors so your sweet little tale of young love doesn't really apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 But what about the fake picture asperity? Making it look like Thatchel was campaigning for PIE, which he clearly wasn't doing and in fact was campaigning for freedom to be gay for gay people in Iran. Gay rights for Iranian gays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 From the Telegraph link posted above: “PIE had been excluded from the NCCL before she [Harman] became legal officer.” However press cuttings from 1983 make it clear that it was still considered an “affiliate group”. Regarding Tatchell, I'd be careful who you, er, get into bed with: http://www.petertatchellfoundation.org/free-speech/nick-griffin-bnp-smear-critics Edit, just found this: http://www.petertatchell.net/lgbt_rights/age_of_consent/index.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 So what's a pederast then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Fugs, methinks the gentleman protesteth too much. As for Nick Griffin, well he is a politician so anything he says must be treated with caution. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Tatchell has made a career out of protesting, that's what he does. It's the BNP who came up with that doctored picture, so, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Peter Tatchell is a vile and odious individual.... if he wishes to campaign for the rights of gay men in Iran; let him go over to Iran and protest there instead of clogging up our streets with his pointless little marches..... I'm sure Ivor Dinnerjacket will welcome him and his "foundation" with open arms 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Cleo, It wasn't the picture that I had a problem with, but the addition of words around the mouth. OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 Disagree Baz, I'm probably more in tune with New Statesman readers who "...in 2006...voted him sixth on their list of "Heroes of our time" {Wiki). A highly principled and brave man, imo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 You have set your sights low then Fugs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 16, 2012 Report Share Posted November 16, 2012 So are "pederasts" Gay or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 asp - he's been a tireless campaigner for civil rights for decades, there are worse people to admire, just taking a look at the roll-call of his detractors is a good indicator for me. obs: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pederast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 So are "pederasts" Gay or not? Not necessarily they may be bi sexual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Pederasts are men (usually homosexual) who love having sex with young boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 17, 2012 Report Share Posted November 17, 2012 Thanks Cleo, point made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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