tara_dad Posted October 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 thanks you Cleopatra I will pass the message on to tara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 As Cleo, I am genuinely deeply moved by the account you have posted regarding the disgusting act carried out against your daughter Tara, it must have affected your family deeply and I sincerely hope that time will heal the suffering that she has gone through. I can now understand the bitterness you hold for this latest pervert Savile, and although I appreciate you are a long standing member of this forum, you must know that there are statements that are made on here that are not altogether palatable sometimes said for effect, sometimes in temper, however I can only speak for myself but I honestly believe that not one person would have made a tasteless remark if they had been aware of the agony your daughter had to endure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Algy, comments get made on here over the years. It goes with the territory. Â TD knows this, but the situation probably brought the memories flooding back. No-one is at fault. These things happen, and we should all be aware that comments are usually light-hearted and not meant to offend. They used to call it banter. Â We have a few posters on here who have suffered in their personal lives, and it is very difficult not to post a comment that would touch a nerve. Â TD, maybe it might help to ease off on all the paper reports. I think we are all aware of the situation, but constantly repeating what we see/read isn't going to change the minds of people on here. Â The thing about all this, is that what was brushed under the carpet, is now coming out. It appears according to Sky News, that they have kept the lid on abuse in the American Scouting Association for years. Now that the evidence is coming out, there will be a lot of twitchy people about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted October 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Sorry peter my mistake I thought this was a forum sorry I thought you could talk about a topic on here no matter if its paste tax or anything like that unless people know what’s going on how can they debate but you want banter that’s ok just don’t call it a forum. Not getting at you peter but you want childish remarks all the time its no wonder not many poster stay. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 TD.... banter makes the world go round... if we only discussed things in a serious fashion there would be even less people on here.... Personally I prefer a bit of light hearted banter, a lot has happened in my personal life over the years, but things move on and I've had to too.... otherwise one becomes a zombie consumed by ones own demons. Â What Savile appears to have done is very very wrong... what some have done to cover it up even worse and hopefully they will be brought to book in due course. Â Me; I'm just glad Savile never replied to my letter back in the 70's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted October 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 i do under stand what your saying Baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted October 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 baz as well i under stand the banter part i do but when its the same childish remark come up with something new that would be a lot better but having seen other post why say anything if they cant say anything Constructive its it they cant live in the back ground? or is it that they just want attention? i have been on here for years now i dont post on every subject or jump on the back of other :blink:How I see it a post will stop if one no one reads it or poster stop posting on it why change the way topic is running look on the hillbough topic one how that went . Because of some one cant debate  but i do under stand baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Remember this tara....  must think a lot about me cant stop posting about me  So what does that say about you and Jimmy Savile? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Interesting about the US Cub Scout abuses; it appears the Yanks have a statute of limitations which prevents inquiries beyond a given time in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 Didn't we have similar rules too (I might be wrong) but either way maybe that will hopefully change too now Obs after the saville revelations over here (ps I intentionally didn't give "it" a capital S, infact I find it difficult to even type "it's" name after all I have read on here) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 It seems that the savile inquirey has now become a criminal investigation because living people have been implicated in the sordid affair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 Â Â Maggie has a chat on how to do miners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 21, 2012 Report Share Posted October 21, 2012 nice one Asp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted October 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 The BBC is set to be plunged into fresh controversy tonight over new claims it pulled a Newsnight investigation into Savile after coming under pressure from senior managers. Â BBC Editor John Simpson, who describes the scandal as: "The worst crisis that I can remember in my nearly 50 years at the BBC". Â see they are sill useing "SIR" still in the reports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 They are using Sir....because he is still classed as a Sir..... just like Lord Lucan is still referred to as Lord Lucan even though it is universally accepted that he is a murderer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tara_dad Posted October 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 baz a knighthood expires when a person dies - but it is also highly unusual for there to be calls for a recipient to be stripped of their honour after they have died.  but you do not have to call them sir anymore if wanted too as we just call them sir as an honour to them after death   lord is a Peerage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Yer don't have to call them "sir" anyway, anytime, anyhow - unless your a peasant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 They are using Sir....because he is still classed as a Sir..... just like Lord Lucan is still referred to as Lord Lucan even though it is universally accepted that he is a murderer  Well, apparantly his knighthood died with him so they shouldn't still be calling him a sir, especially under the circumstance. This whole can of worms is about to explode with the police preparing to arrest the living people involved including Freddie Starr and Paul Gadd etc., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Yer don't have to call them "sir" anyway, anytime, anyhow - unless your a peasant. Â A rare occasion when I agree with you. I would never call anyone Sir, Lord or Lady because none of them are any better or any more noble or more equal than myself just because they have had a title bestowed upon them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 22, 2012 Report Share Posted October 22, 2012 Great post Cleo, and I would do the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris1066 Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 I wondered how long it would be before the lawyers appeared on the scene. Seems they are queing up to sue all and sundry on behalf of the victims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 What amazes me is that we have not YET! had a 'I had Jimmy Sa-Vile's love child' claim, mind you I suppose there's plenty of time yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted October 23, 2012 Report Share Posted October 23, 2012 I have just remembered that I might have been a victim in 1968,9,70,71,72, etc. I did look a lot younger than I was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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