Cleopatra Posted October 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Hamza has lost his appeal and there can be no further appeals made because he has come to the end of the appeals line. That means (jubilations) he will be shipped off to the usa in the next few days. He will find things a tad different in the usa. They don't allow farting around like the legal system in the uk does. Insha Allah, the animal will be caged for the rest of it's life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Might help if you paused to think prior to diving in Cleo - I know old Abu is now heading for the USA, but his family are still here, living on benefits etc - so THEY can be sent back to Jordan eh?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Well you know what? I thought he was from Jordon myself and I just read a short life history which said he was born in Alexandria, Egypt. Now you can all make a meal out of that one. Nobody around here seems to know who Hamza is and never heard of him. And you know what? Just maybe his family has every right to be there in Britain. His first wife was British, maybe his second wife is too. his kids were born in Britain so that would make them british. So observer, me old tinkler, maybe you are the one who should pause to think prior to diving in, eh what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Cleo  Completely agree with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Well you know what? I thought he was from Jordon myself and I just read a short life history which said he was born in Alexandria, Egypt. Now you can all make a meal out of that one. Nobody around here seems to know who Hamza is and never heard of him. And you know what? Just maybe his family has every right to be there in Britain. His first wife was British, maybe his second wife is too. his kids were born in Britain so that would make them british. So observer, me old tinkler, maybe you are the one who should pause to think prior to diving in, eh what? Â I'd strip them of their British Citizenship and pack them off somewhere more atuned to their opinions on the British... Afghanistan would be a good start, but anywhere that might torture them would be a start.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Ok, so tell me how you strip a british citizen of his/her british citizenship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teessidewire Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Ok, so tell me how you strip a british citizen of his/her british citizenship. He's on the way, literally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Ok, so tell me how you strip a british citizen of his/her british citizenship.  By close association maybe  Personally I'd stick some 'others' on the same plane as him including those who were shown briefly on the TV news today being somewhat aggressive after hearing the news and who had to be 'restrained' by the police outside the courts  Anyone who can show any level of support towards him, or other like him, should be 'removed' with immediate effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Well Dizzy, lovie, Hamza himself has cost you, and every other tax payer in the uk, millions of pounds alone with all the appeals palava. Now if everyone who demonstrated was served with a deportation order, it's a pound to a pinch of sh*t that they would go down the same legal route as Hamza did. The cost to the country then would be mind boggling! Another pound to a pinch of sh*t that most of them would have been home grown british citizens. So, again, how do you strip a british citizen of his/her british citizenship? Now don't get me wrong, before anyone should try to make something of it, I do not condone the protestors' support for Hamza. And I am so pleased that he was sent to america - about time they had some rubbish from the uk instead of the uk accepting rubbish from america all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 I know deportation of the family isn’t an option for a variety of reasons but it certainly would make the young radicals think twice about their actions if it brought shame rather than fame to the family.  In my experience, the family bonds and respect shown for the elders within the Asian community is on a completely different level than we understand in the UK and this respect would never allow such a threat to exist.  Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Well, he is in America now and they are welcome to him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 6, 2012 Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 Ok, so tell me how you strip a british citizen of his/her british citizenship. Â a bullet between the eyes would do the trick.... or in Hamzas case, one to the left of his good one would do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2012 But in that case he would be dead without as much suffering as there is left for him to do yet. Knowing the americans his case will be drawn out for many years then when he is around 80 years old they will decide it's time to kill him off, during which time he will wonder every day if today will be the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Seems the Local Authority has "asked" Abu's Misses to move from her 5 bedroom house, with her remaining two kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Well they wouldn't do that while he was still in the uk would they? Not unless they wanted a 'right hook' from him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Apparantly Hamza has complained because the prison authorities in the usa won't give him his hook and he has to eat his meals through a straw. They said that they will look to providing him with a rubber hand. Probably get him one from a second hand shop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Apparantly Hamza has complained because the prison authorities in the usa won't give him his hook and he has to eat his meals through a straw. They said that they will look to providing him with a rubber hand. Probably get him one from a second hand shop! The only rubber hand he will be experiencing will be on the end of someone's wrist. :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Cleo, I'm sending you the bill for cleaning the coffee off my laptop!! :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dizzy Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Why should the US taxpayers have to pay out $19,000 for him to have new 'safer' hands though? If he doesn't want to eat his meals slushed and through a straw he could always have normal meals and eat from a plate/bowl like a dog or any other animal would.  No offence meant to the latter of course  Personally I would say "we have to give you food (although we'd prefer not to) so you find a way of eating it big man. If you do starve to death or if you find it degrading or uncomfortable... who cares... tough sh**e and hurrah " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 Will the hook scratch his piles?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 How do you know he's got piles? But to answer your question, no it won't because they won't let him have it. Probably it's on the Chief Wardens desk being used as a bill hook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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algy Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 He's already got his name down for a part in the prison Christmas pantomime 'Peter Pan'. :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 10, 2012 Report Share Posted October 10, 2012 Well he did ask "who can I" play?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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