Bazj Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 Employing UK labour (hopefully)! probably employing cheap east europeans you mean!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 Foreign companies tend to invest in the UK, as their is little protection for UK employees, compared to most other western countries. It is easier to hire them and fire them or make them redundant . It is one of the ways the UK likes to bring jobs into the UK, by eroding even more employee rights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 probably employing cheap east europeans you mean!! Just attempting to be subtle Baz!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 Just attempting to be subtle Baz!. Well I like to keep people guessing about my bitterness towards the last governments cynical attempt to flood the country with hired Labour voters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 No slow down with this government Baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 I guess it's all about their Pole ratings at the end of the day?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted September 30, 2012 Report Share Posted September 30, 2012 No slow down with this government Baz exactly, which is why UKIP are trouncing the Lib Dums in the polls and why the goverment won't give us an "IN OR OUT" referendum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Well, it seems Labour are offering an "in or out" referendum - no doubt, when the time is right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Well, it seems Labour are offering an "in or out" referendum - no doubt, when the time is right! What parties (any of them) offer when they are not in power is inconsequential as if they manage to become the ruling party in government they are more than likely to welsh on the deal than not! And yes obs I did notice your smiley 'wink'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I see BEA Systems, The UK's biggest manufacturing company is about to become foreign owned, does anyone else have a problem with the biggest supplier to the MOD being sold off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Kije, won't this create a European super-manufacturer - right up your street I would have thought? Pity, it may involve job losses in the N/West though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I have always said Obs, strategic industries should be owned by the government or at least be a British Company, don't fancy importing things we need for defence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I have always said Obs, strategic industries should be owned by the government or at least be a British Company, don't fancy importing things we need for defence. What you are saying here is at odds with your belief in the EU project, can't you see that? This combining of our defence manufacturer with the EU defense manufacturer is all part of the greater project of the EU that has been the plan all along. It's called "the ratchet", combining all of the member states' institutions, but not in one go. Little by little has been the catchphrase for the project since the end of WW2 when the European State was first started. Eventually all our institutions will lose their independence and will become a small part of the greater institution that has been the dream of the Europhiles for more than 100 years. So you are either for the project or against losing our defence manufacturer, you cannot be both. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I object to any British company being sold to anyone outside of these shores. There will come a day when the people of the UK (or should that be England?) will be dancing to the foreigners tune just to get food and power to live. trust me, it will happen. And obs, it is not ALL about the cost of labour, but largely to do with the greed of the bosses and the shareholders. Funny how it all started racing downhill when British gas got the common man buying shares. the world has never been the same since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Asp, I have always said strategic industries, such as defence, coal and iron ect should remain in British hands, If we go to war asp, you might find yourself in a convoy protected by are non existent Aircraft Carriers, and old lend lease Destroyers from America, as we don't make are own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 But YOU are the cheerleader for the European project, not me Lt Kije!! Take your blinkers off man and see where our glorious (sarcasm) leaders are taking us, little by little. Softly softly, catchee monkey. We will wake up one day and find that there is no longer anything British, we will be just insignificant contributers to the European tax gathering machine. <_< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 If we go to war asp, you might find yourself in a convoy protected by are non existent Aircraft Carriers, and old lend lease Destroyers from America, as we don't make are own You talk more garbage than Obs here, and that takes some doing :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Asp I will think you will find I have been very consistent when it comes to our strategic industries Asp, they should be owned by the British, nice try though, how about giving us your opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 You cannot have it both ways Lt Kije. Either you want to be a full European, which you apparently do, or you want an independent Britain. The European project does not allow for independent members, it's aim is a fully integrated state. My opinion is well known to you and everyone else on here - get out of this corrupt, undemocratic and thoroughly dishonest construct as quickly as possible before any more damage is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Of course you can have British owned strategic industries while being in Europe, it's nothing to do with having it both ways, so you are in favour of BEA systems being owned by foreigners,, the topic is about British manurfacturing remember Asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I'm not in favour of it, but thanks to your glorious EU, there is nothing we can do to stop it. You are the flag bearer for the EU on here (The lone voice in the wilderness some would say) and as Asp says; you can't have it both ways. You are either in favour of a fully integrated European Union, integrated laws, rules and companies or you are against it. You can't cut the cloth to make two suits out of this one Kije! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 You are so wrong in every way Lt Kije!! How you took any of my replies to mean I am in favour of BAE being foreign owned can only be guessed at. And as for there being any British owned strategic industry if, or when, the European project comes to it's catastrophic conclusion well only in your deluded imagination I'm afraid. Did any of the Soviet states have their own strategic industries? Do any of the staes of America? Dream on sunshine :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Agree with Asp on this, just hope it doesn't mean I'm talking garbage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 So Asp are you in favour of BAE systems being sold off to a foreigner ? Yes or no will do I am not in favour, for the reasons given Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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