wolfie Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Inhabitants of the Falkland Islands will vote on whether it should remain a British territory in a referendum next year. And what will that achieve :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Nothing As Argentines are not aloud to live their, so the vote will be a little onesided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 It will serve to show the fithy Argie scum that they have no claim to the islands and that they can sod off basically! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 What it will achieve is to state for the world to witness, that the indigenous population of those Islands wish to remain British subjects; thus providing the moral credentials for their defence. And if Argentines arn't allowed to live there, it would appear they have a better immigration policy than we do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 It is the UK that stops them living their Obs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Well they should be doing the same kind of job over here then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 So what is the point of the vote, it's like asking the people of Warrington whether they want to become part of Pakistan, it's not worth having the vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 What it will achieve is to state for the world to witness, that the indigenous population of those Islands wish to remain British subjects; thus providing the moral credentials for their defence. And if Argentines arn't allowed to live there, it would appear they have a better immigration policy than we do! Who are the indigenous population of the falkland islands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted June 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 It's a bit like Gypsies moving onto greenbelt land and 10 years later being given a vote to see how many want to stay. You know the result before the vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Clea their was not any indigenous population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Yes there was but penguins can’t vote because they can’t hold the pencil. Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Most Falklands families have been there for 3, 4 or even 5 generations. Some can even trace their ancestry back to settlers who went with Capt John MacBride and established the town of Port Egremont on West Falkland in 1766. That's a full 60 years before Argentina even existed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted June 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Confirming that a vote would be meaningless then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Falkland Island census History http://www.falklands.gov.fk/documents/Census%20Report%202006.pdf Inky you are wrong!!!!! The French were the first to colonise the Island 1762, before that the Portuguese, French and British had visited at various times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Kije.... according to your document, there were 29 Argentinians living on the Falklands in 2006 and yet you stated previously that they weren't allowed!! Was that just your "Have a go at the UK" stance again or were you just lying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 I also noted that there were no people from Somalia on the islands.... Now is that because the benefits are not as good as the UK or are there not enough people to beg from I wonder?!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 The table says they were born there, As the nearest country any complicated births may have been taken their, it is not there nationality it is country where they were born. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Clea their was not any indigenous population. I know that Lt Kije but I wanted to know who observer thought the indigenous population was, as he refered to them. When first discovered the islands were uninhabited. In 1765 the british established a settlement in the west without knowing that the french had settled in the east two years earlier. The Falkland Islands are as English (British) as Manchester. The people there speak with a broad lancashire accent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 Confirming that a vote would be meaningless then. They are holding the referendum confident that it will be a sure vote for The Falklands to remain British and thus showing the Argentines that they, the population of the Falklands, do not want Argentinean rule so, basically the argentines can go and boil their heads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 indigenous: native or belonging naturally (to a place). So if you want to play semantics, there's no place on earth that hasn't been colonised by human beings (out of Africa theory of evolution etc) - so I guess it's about time, and three generations seems to reasonably fit the term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 indigenous: native or belonging naturally (to a place). So if you want to play semantics, there's no place on earth that hasn't been colonised by human beings (out of Africa theory of evolution etc) - so I guess it's about time, and three generations seems to reasonably fit the term. Doesn't matter how long the inhabitants of the Falkland Islands have been there. They are descendents of settlers and therefore NOT native or naturally belonging to the islands and therefor not indigenous so dont bloody bother trying to embelish the meaning to cover up your mistake because it won't wash with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 12, 2012 Report Share Posted June 12, 2012 The table says they were born there, As the nearest country any complicated births may have been taken their, it is not there nationality it is country where they were born. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Read the table Baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 Falkland Island census History http://www.falklands.gov.fk/documents/Census%20Report%202006.pdf Inky you are wrong!!!!! The French were the first to colonise the Island 1762, before that the Portuguese, French and British had visited at various times 1764 actually. On EAST Falkland, at a place called Port St Louis. They named the islands after the French port of St Malo - Îles Malouines - which the Spanish later translated into Islas Malvinas. The British established their colony on WEST Falkland the following year. The French left the islands completely in 1766 and have never since attempted to claim any kind of sovereignty, so they're hardly relevent to Argentina's spurious claims of ownership are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted June 13, 2012 Report Share Posted June 13, 2012 The table says they were born there, As the nearest country any complicated births may have been taken their, it is not there nationality it is country where they were born. In which case, these 29 would appear in Table 11B "Birthplace outside the Falkland Islands but arriving within six months of birth (mother normally resident in the Falkland Islands)" They don't. Table 13 "Population by Citizenship" shows 2 Argentine citizens resident in The Falklands on Census night 2006 - so obviously Argentinians ARE allowed there. Table 14B goes on to show that 6 Falkland Islanders have one parent a Falklander with the other Argentinian, a further 6 have one parent British with the other Argentinian, and 5 have both parents Argentinian. I think it's fair to say that your assertion that Argentine citizens are banned from the Falkland Islands is utter rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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