observer Posted May 28, 2012 Report Share Posted May 28, 2012 It's OK folks - no increase in VAT on hot pasties! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 I'm not bothered, but, must admit that whenever I went into town I had to go to Greggs for a potato and meat pastie. They are so tastey. They should open up branches here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Getting confused messages on the news: another news item said if they're served hot (as a takeaway) they're still VAT rated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 The romans tried to keep the populace happy with bread and circuses - now under Emperor Cameronius it's pasties and the olympics - how we've advanced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 If they are hot from the oven eg just baked then they are exempt from tax. If they are sold when cool or cold then they are exempt from tax. if they are allowed to cool and then re-heated then they are not exempt from tax. At least that is what they seem to be saying on the news today sounds simple enough Just thought of a grey area though. what if they are taken out of the oven and placed in a heated case wonder if they will be exempt then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 I'm not bothered, but, must admit that whenever I went into town I had to go to Greggs for a potato and meat pastie. They are so tastey. They should open up branches here! Ah....... Egyptian pie, the type that mummy use to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevofaz25 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 If they are hot from the oven eg just baked then they are exempt from tax. If they are sold when cool or cold then they are exempt from tax. if they are allowed to cool and then re-heated then they are not exempt from tax. At least that is what they seem to be saying on the news today sounds simple enough Just thought of a grey area though. what if they are taken out of the oven and placed in a heated case wonder if they will be exempt then? That's the catch... hot food kept warm will attract VAT so some stuff in the shop will be taxed but not all of it- tis a dogs dinner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 The Government should not have allowed itself to be brow-beaten by a baying mob. Greggs and other similar firms have been exploiting a loophole for years and all the changes would have done was seal the loophole. Lots of other shops, who buy in their pasties and pies and then have to charge VAT because they heat them up were, and now, still are, at a disadvantage. Don't see why anyone should be confused. The situation remains as it was before. Hot takeaway food carries VAT, cold takeaway food doesn't. But if the food just happens to still be hot (because it has just come from the oven) then it is classed as cold takeaway food so is not subject to VAT. Incidentally, I can't be sure of this, but I suspect VAT on hot takeaway food was first brought in by a Labour Government. Even if I am wrong, the last Labour Government did not remove it so it is somewhat hypocritical of them to be braying about it now. It is also a load of rubbish to suggest the change would have hit the needy poor. If folk are that poor, they shouldn't be buying takeaway food at all but should be saving money by preparing their own food at home. Er...sorry, I forgot...most of them don't know how to these days. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 That's the catch... hot food kept warm will attract VAT so some stuff in the shop will be taxed but not all of it- tis a dogs dinner I've had a few pasties that taste like they were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 But if the food just happens to still be hot (because it has just come from the oven) then it is classed as cold takeaway food so is not subject to VAT :unsure: well you've certainly cleared that up Adam. Ever thought of being a government advisor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Make your own pasties and you pay no tax. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Not sure whether pasties are classed as "healthy" food or not; perhaps the pastry is bad for you? So why don't they just have a traffic light system for all food - red = bad for you = higher VAT: amber= neutral = lower VAT: green = good for you = nil VAT: or is that tooo simples?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Most foods are not bad for you,if eaten in moderation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Alas, "most" folk don't eat in "moderation" and worse - eat the wrong type of food products - hence the current obesity epidemic. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 So what is healthy food then Obs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Yes, observer, what is healthy food? Waiting eagerly for you answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Most foods are not bad for you,if eaten in moderation Try telling that IBS sufferers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 what amount of food is considered "moderation" then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Depends if you are anorexic or if you are a fat greedy bugger how much it is. Moderation is elastic in, accordance to your eating habits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted May 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 IF, the Gov are concerned about "healthy eating" - they have enough access to medical experts to devise a simple warning label and tax scheme for food products. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 that is providing that you can get two "experts" that agree with each other 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 IF, the Gov are concerned about "healthy eating" - they have enough access to medical experts to devise a simple warning label and tax scheme for food products. :roll: STOP ENCOURAGING THEM OBS!! :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted June 5, 2012 Report Share Posted June 5, 2012 Peter If you suffer from IBS, stop reading Obs's posts, I heared it does wonders for the condition, it akin to a miracle cure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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