asperity Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 A good description Algy :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 A good description Algy :wink: Thank's Asp. I must admit I was a bit wary of treading on your toes!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Thank's Asp. I must admit I was a bit wary of treading on your toes!. I'm saying nothing.... I came very close though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 To be honest there is a huge variety of systems operating on the world fleet, and a large variety of different types of vessels. However they all have to comply with the international rules agreed by the member countries of the Inernational Maritime Organisation (and to be able to trade internationally a ship has to be registered in a country which is a member!) If there is a problem with the size of cruise liners identified, then in time the IMO will change the rules accordingly. If anyone is interested in the way ship casualties are investigated, have a look at the MAIB website (the maritime equivalent of the air accident investigation board). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Costa Concordia is to be refloated and towed to Genoa Salvage An lucrative contract for the salvors :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Costa Concordia is to be refloated and towed to Genoa Salvage An lucrative contract for the salvors :wink: I have read that the ships bell has already been stolen!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Always a popular item for the light fingered. When navigation lights were brass they used to be a target as well. :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 Was this the iceberg that sank the Titanic? Picture taken from Carpathia the following day: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 Some interesting facts tonight about the sinking: 40% of 1st class passengers were lost compared to 70% of 3rd class passengers. There were more male 1st class passengers saved than the children of 3rd class passengers. The recovered bodies of 1st class passengers were placed in coffins, those of 3rd class put in body bags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 7, 2012 Report Share Posted April 7, 2012 And your point is? :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Some interesting facts tonight about the sinking: 40% of 1st class passengers were lost compared to 70% of 3rd class passengers. There were more male 1st class passengers saved than the children of 3rd class passengers. The recovered bodies of 1st class passengers were placed in coffins, those of 3rd class put in body bags. They were all deceased obs!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 My point is, that the Titanic represented the class ridden social structure of 1912, and it's changed little since then imo. Another interesting fact: the White Star Line actually made more profit out of it's 3rd class passengers than it's 1st class, which I thought was rather surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 not really considering that they crowded them in and spent very little on providing food for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Not quite so Sid: it cost them £7 (about £6oo in today's money), for which they had a cabin better than most other ships, and 3 meals per day - probably more than most were used to. Most of the 3rd class passengers were emigrants, moving to start a new life in the US, but which sadly ended in the N/Atlantic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 8, 2012 Report Share Posted April 8, 2012 Sid is probably right Obs. You have to take into account economy of scale. On my ship the feeding rate is just over £5 per man per day for 9 men. For several hundred people the cost would decrease and the budget wouldn't include any luxury items like sweet biscuits, Coca Cola, bottled water, cakes, fancy cheeses etc. The catering staff would be cooking the same food for all 3 classes, just the presentation being different. Food is food!! :grin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2012 Of course - economies of scale and all that - but they were still getting three hot meals per day, something many were not used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 "Women and children first" or "every man for himself"? Historical research suggests that the myth of the former arose from the sinking of MS Birkenhead, which was transporting a British Army Regiment to S/Africa, presumably military dicipline and armed crew members played a part. Titanic appears to be the only other instance where the former appears to have been the case, in all other cases, the percentage of female losses to males seems to have been higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 The men evacuate as they are, the women insist on going back to their cabins for handbags, makeup, jewellery etc. The same thing happened during the blitz when large numbers of women died trying to save the "best china" instead of leaving it and heading straight to the nearest shelter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 So how do "couples" react? Do husbands just leave their wives in the cabin?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 If she insists on choosing an appropriate outfit (what DOES one wear to a ship sinking?), getting changed three times, then doing her hair and make-up before leaving the cabin - she gets left! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Guess your Mrs won't be reading this?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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