fugtifino Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Well, you know what thought did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Why don't you read what the government are trying to do asperity, then compare what the EU have done, then you might wake up!!! Obs I have no problem tracking terrorists, I do have a problem tracking everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Well, you know what thought did. Walked behind a muck cart and thought it was a wedding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Indeed, Cleo. For clarification: Internet service providers are obliged to keep details of users' web access, email and internet phone calls for 12 months, under an EU directive from 2009. ....... The proposed new law - which the Home Office says will be brought in "as soon as parliamentary time allows" - would extend those requirements to social networking sites and internet phone services such as Skype. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17595209 I can't tell the difference between this lot and the old New Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I think we all have a problem "tracking" exactly what your saying Kije! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 As I said Lt Kije, you stay in your happy little bubble where everything the EU does is benevolent and everything the nasty tories do is evil. Enjoy your freedom while it lasts :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I can't really see what the problem is as they've been tracking and monitoring phone calls and other stuff for years anyway and like fugs says internet providers have to keep records of what we all do and look at for 12 months anyway so unless you have something to hide and are a baddie then so what it wont really affect people (other than on the human rights front of course). I guess terrorists, criminals and the likes will soon just find new ways of communicating though safe in the knowledge that the gov are spending all their time and money reading and trying to decipher all the normal people's (often crap and nonsense) 'non important' texts, messages, pokes, tweets, emails and other forms of communication. I'd like to think that monitoring will result in them catching crooks or terrorists but now it's out on the open those with something to hide will be one step ahead now the government bods have come clean about their plans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I may as well talk to the wall :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 What the government are proposing to do is nothing to do with the EU, It goes far beyond the EU legislation, and will involve keeping the content of emails Asp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Yes Lt Kije, the EUSSR has absolutely no influence in this country, all our laws are made by the duly elected government of the day, and pigs fly at 30,000 feet. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Well it's not happening anywhere else in Europe Asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I may as well talk to the wall :roll: Each to their own Aps Talking to it is ok... but it's when you find yourself constantly hitting your head against it that your problems really start. PS.... sooner or later the government will find a way of monitoring that too and you will get done for vandalism or put in a straight jacket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Britain has always been one of the most secretive States in the so-called "free world" and obsessed with surviellance; you only have to look at the number of CCTVs we have now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Yes of course you are right Lt Kije, and Gordon Brown didn't sign the Lisbon Treaty (have you read the Lisbon Treaty by the way? If you have you are unique because none of our so called leaders have ). The whole thing is a right wing conspiracy by Rupert Murdoch and Margaret Thatcher designed to undermine the peace loving and wholly democratic European Union. The fact that the legislation I gave you the link to is headed "EC Directive" is obviously just a smokescreen. The EU has absolutely no influence at all in the way this country is governed. Our coastal waters aren't full of French, Dutch, Portugese and Spanish trawlers, while British fishermen are restricted to a few days a week in their home waters. Lt Kije you are living in a dreamworld if you believe that our government is anything but a rubber stamp for legislation put in place by the EUSSR. We may as well scrap Parliament now and turn the place into flats for immigrants. :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 It's you that's on another Planet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 He's on the same planet as the majority of folk - oops forgot, you liberal EU don't recognise majorities, especially in referendums! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Actually, what the politicians are proposing is not that much different to what they got so worked up about when it was done by the News of the World. I personally see nothing wrong in the media using new technology to expose wrongdoing by those in power. That is part of their function. Similarly, I see nothing wrong in the authorities using new technology to track down criminals, etc. The problem comes when someone goes beyond this - in the case of the News of the World by hacking into innocent people's phones, or in the case of the authorites when they spy on, say legitimate people who simply disagree with them politically. Which would encompass just everyone on this site at some time or other 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Obs, the people you would vote for would never get a majority, and if they did get office as they did in Germany they would turn it he UK into a dictatorship as they did in Germany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 ... and we're not in a liberal luvvy dictatorship now?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Good post Egbert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 Obs, the people you would vote for would never get a majority, and if they did get office as they did in Germany they would turn it he UK into a dictatorship as they did in Germany don't you mean Brussels?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 4, 2012 Report Share Posted April 4, 2012 That's his blind spot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 So back to topic, should have had a pole really, who s in favour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 5, 2012 Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 ....... should {we}have had a pole really, who's in favour? .... not me; they come over here and take all of our jobs!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 5, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2012 Are you in favour of what the government are doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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