Bazj Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 No Kije.... we haven't had a referendum because the government know that the majoprity of the people would vote to get out. Especially as it costs us billions every year for the privilidge of them wasting our money! Having seen the damage the voters can do and did do in France, Belgium Ireland etc.... the government will most certainly not give us a referendum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 That's your opinion Baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 That's your opinion Baz errr nope.... the first bit is backed up by lots of surveys and polls..... and the second bit is backed up by fact!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Kije is just like the politicians in Westminister, only sees the world through his own rose coloured specs and ignores majority public opinion - which is: to get out of the EU; get out of the ECHR, get out of Afghanistan asap, and sort out the immigration mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Nothing but opinion Funny Obs, I thought we were talking about George, when your cornered change subject to EU to get help, seems you do it a lot. Not that I have noticed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Nothing but opinion So you are telling me that it is only opinion that France, Belgium, Ireland and Denmark all rejected the EU when asked in a referendum? and had to be persuaded/forced into having a second referendum so the EU masters could get the answer THEY wanted? That is opinion is it Kije? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 It is opiniun that most people in the UK want out of the EU Baz, now stop helping Obs out We were talking about George and minority parties and he was being hammered he would love to stay off topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Lt Kije, you are as bad as Cameron wanting to divert attention away from what most people in this country want and that is to get out from under the the bureaucratic nightmare of the EUSSR. If there was as much support for the EUSSR as you and Cameron and the rest of the political class say there is there would have been a referendum years ago. And by referendum I mean an OUT/IN choice and not some fudge about regaining some legeslative powers back. Unfortunately I'm afraid that the process has gone too far to negotiate our way out :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 I like talking about the EU Kije....... I pay enough for the privilidge..... did you know that a referendum will take place in May 2012 in Witney, Sheffield Hallam and Doncaster North – the constituencies of David Cameron, Nick Clegg and Ed Miliband. Voters can give a clear message back to their leaders that enough is enough. The question will be as follows: “The UK is currently a member of the European Union. Do you agree that the UK should stay in the European Union?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 The tread is about George Galloway Asp, not the EU, I think we have a number of threads on that, feel free to comment their. It gets very puerile when people keep changing threads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 'Lt Kije' OWNED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 The tread is about George Galloway Asp, not the EU, I think we have a number of threads on that, feel free to comment their. It gets very puerile when people keep changing threads I'll cast my opinion wherever I like thank you. Nice to see that my tuition is getting through though :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 1, 2012 Report Share Posted April 1, 2012 Sorry Baz, you lost me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Not my opinion Kije - majority PUBLIC opinion in most polls for the last decade - but ignored by main stream parties and osteriches with their heads in the sand like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Try another news paper, one that tells you news and not what you want to here Obs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Don't use newspapers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Stay clear of the Biased Broadcasting Corporation as well Obs :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 So if you don't read newspapers, can I take it you make up what you don't know Obs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 Are you completely dense? There's a thing in everyone's home called a TV set, plus radios - now, unless the BBC is suspect, they provide a means of up to date, objective news reporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 the BBC provide objective news reporting. Fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 The press provide a subjective point of view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 2, 2012 Report Share Posted April 2, 2012 The MSM and the BBC in particular provide a dumbed down version of the news which mostly consists of cut and pasting press releases from government and ngo sources. Not to be relied upon. The BBC in particular is very biased in it's reporting on the EU, Israel/Palestine, the USA (oh how they adore Obama )and climate science. I don't take anything I read or hear from these frauds without a large pinch of salt :wink: Did you notice on 1st April it was nigh on impossible to pick out the spoof stories from the real ones. Might as well read the Daily Mash, at least then you get a chuckle :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 So where do you get your news Asp, Sky? Or Fox news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 3, 2012 Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 I'm not getting into this futile discussion with you again Lt Kije. You only believe what you want to and file everything into black and white boxes. The real world isn't black and white. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2012 Getting back to Georgie Boy: seems Respect are getting set to take over Bradford Council in May! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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