Cleopatra Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Is it right that a seven year old boy should be branded a racist by staff because he asked another boy at his school in Hull if he was brown because he came from Africa? And is it right to tell his mother to sign a form acknowledging that her son had made a racist remark? Or should the school staff concerned receive six of the best on each hand for being so damned stupid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 The latter if you have a modicum of common sense and live in the real world.... the former if you are a teacher or any other member of the liberal softy club which now encompasses our whole country and is the main reason it is in the state it is in now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Or should the school staff concerned receive six of the best on each hand for being so damned stupid? No, but the younger boy’s mother who complained to the school, which launched the investigation should be sent back home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Felt the same when I read it, but the sad fact is that if someone makes a complaint these days, protocol has to follow. Woe betide anyone in a position of responsibility if they don't. Senator McCarthy's are everywhere and thriving. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 All rather pathetic...... Simply a case of a young kid asking an innocent question as kids do, followed then by the usual tirade of a mother taking offence and kicking off and then reporting this innocent question to the school when her 5 year old mentioned it to her (again probably in all innocence) ... followed by the school having to follow the set guidelines when complaints are made and having to tick the boxes so they are they not 'at fault' ...and then promptly followed by a retaliation of pathetic mummy number one by taking the whole saga to the national press In my opinion they are all as bad as each other apart from the 7 year old and the 5 year old who are probably now wondering what on earth is going on and why the words 'brown' and 'Africa' are so bad I might be wrong but I'm sure that most 'brown' people are 'brown' simply because their parents/grandparents etc come from are or descendants of people from Africa or other similar 'brown' countries.... unless their parents went on sunbeds of course but that is not hereditary (or is it ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Oooh bugger I did it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 It may have helped, if the teachers knew why and could explain the reasons for differing coloured skin - which, in terms of origins and science, may have justified the kids comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 Oooh bugger I did it again Apart from your spelling, a good response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted February 19, 2012 Report Share Posted February 19, 2012 So, a seven year old asks a perfectly reasonable question for a, er, seven year old. A mum is dutifully "offended". A school acts in haste to make sure it's ticked the right boxes and arses are well and truly covered. The Wail "discovers" the potential for frothing outrage: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2103175/Boy-7-branded-racist-asking-schoolmate-Are-brown-come-Africa.html It's another PC Gawn Mad story from The Wail, folks!!!!! ! Oooh bugger I did it again I agree with what Britney from Lancs said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 No it is not right but unfortunately that is the sort of thing we have to put up with these days. Thinking back the forty odd years to when I was a kid and some of the things that were said then were definitely racist. BUT that was how most people were dragged up. We learnt from our elders and our elders had definite views of people who were different in any way shape or form. Today racism is frowned on and rightly so, but so is common sense. One problem I have is how do you know if somebody is racially abusing you unless you either speak their language or are with somebody who does. For example If a person from Thailand calls you a white son of an unmarried mother but in their own language would you know or would you just shrug and walk away puzzled. My street contains a varied content of "ethic minorities" of which I am one. Listening to some of them as they wander down the street talking away in their own language often makes me wonder if they are arguing,singing or just passing the time of day. For all I know they could be planning the greatest bank robbery off all time. any way back to "normality" the question was asked in all innocence,Kids of that age do and say things that make everybody cringe at times but to branded a racist because of it is wrong. Had he just asked if the other kid was from Africa would he still have been branded a racist. if you want to point out any blame then it should go to all those adverts to send £2.00 a month to help,little Herbert in Africa to stay alive and not have to travel twenty miles to drink tainted water and thus have a better life. To a seven year old watching them and then seeing somebody who has the same colour skin it is a natural question. arrrgh rant over for now until the next topic that gets me going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Having explained the science, that skin colour relates to an adaptation to climate at a given latitude. The curious kid, may then have asked, "why are they living in over here then?" To which, an educated Teacher could explain the history of human migration from the slave trade, convict settlement, consequences of an Imperial past and labour shortages, right through to hitching a lift under a lorry. Some solid reality - rather than the PC fairy stories being foisted on young minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Tessla Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Could take it further back and explain that we're all from Africa. (Apparently Northern Europeans, what that charmless git Nick Griffin would call "indigenous", are more likely to carry neanderthal genes - that helps to explain the evolutionary stage of the average BNP and EDL supporter ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Correct; BUT, after around 20,000 years (without cross breeding or global mobility) skin colour changes to suit the latitude. As for the relative progress of the species, suggest you consult your history books! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 No, but the younger boy’s mother who complained to the school, which launched the investigation should be sent back home. I'm sure Mrs. Evra felt she had a point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Ok 1-0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 I thought the mum of the 7 year old who asked the question was called Ms White That in itself is a bit ironic though I suppose but I guess I may be missing something there PJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 oops I think get it now since Wolfie replied while I was typing.... it was a footy comment 'thing' right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Keep up Diz, it took you 10 mins to type the last but one post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Yes cos I had to go fix my elderly neighbours TV again as her ao called 'home help' wouldn't (or couldn't) do it ..... nor would they change her kitchen light bulb when that went and so she phoned me (give them their due though they did stand there and watch me so I guess they know how to do it now) ... so give me some credit at least for being quick and usefull in some people's eyes She loves footy though... so maybe I could get her a pc so she can give you all a run for your money Anyway as usual I digress but you made me So back to topice now ..... bloody stupid parents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 Yes cos I had to go fix my elderly neighbours TV again as her ao called 'home help' wouldn't (or couldn't) do it ..... nor would they change her kitchen light bulb when that went and so she phoned me (give them their due though they did stand there and watch me so I guess they know how to do it now) ... so give me some credit at least for being quick and usefull in some people's eyes She loves footy though... so maybe I could get her a pc so she can give you all a run for your money Anyway as usual I digress but you made me So back to topice now ..... bloody stupid parents And bloody stupid teachers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleopatra Posted February 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 So back to topice now ..... bloody stupid parents And bloody stupid teachers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 True but teachers/heads are having to stick to the bloody stupid rules, regulations and boxes they are given to tick or they loose their jobs or get sued. I do see what you mean though but parents like these two don't help the situation do they. I feel sorry for very young kids these days as the PC brigade and parents attitudes must really confuse them and take away their innocence... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 I feel sorry for the teachers having to put up with the PC brigade and parents attitudes and the kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 This isn't an isolated incident, a similar case occured recently in a Warrington Primary School - the PC Police are everywhere. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted February 20, 2012 Report Share Posted February 20, 2012 It's all Patrice Evra's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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