asperity Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 How many people are aware that the Falkland Islands are over 300 miles away from Argentina, and that, for this reason alone, Argentina has no claim to these islands? International waters for economic exploitation are only out as far as 200 miles so the inhabitants of the Falklands are quite within their rights to resist any claims from Argentina and are, historically, also within their rights to ask the UK for protection if threatened. Just saying :wink: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 How many people are aware that the Falkland Islands are over 300 miles away from Argentina, and that, for this reason alone, Argentina has no claim to these islands? Would that be more than the distance from the UK then? :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 they can ask, are we able to provide anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Seems, this time, we have 3,ooo troops in situ, rather than 30, so presumably we won't need a task force! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 How many can Argentina muster to go against our 3k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 Well, on the basis of their last performance, they'd probably require around 30,000! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted January 29, 2012 Report Share Posted January 29, 2012 But that's just you living in the past isn't it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inky pete Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 How many can Argentina muster to go against our 3k? They'd have to get them ashore first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Why PJ, have the Argies upgraded their recruitment and training programmes or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I've just googled and discovered that the UK is 7,900 miles from the Falklands, which is a touch over 300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 And your point is what Wolfie?? The inhabitants of the Falklands don't want to be subjects of Argentina, and as long as that situation prevails they are entitled to the protection of the UK if they want it. If at some point they decided to become Argentinian then I very much doubt that the UK would stand in their way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I'm more interested in your point that states that any claim on the islands is dictated by how far away from them a country is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I'm more interested in your point that states that any claim on the islands is dictated by how far away from them a country is. The legal status of the Falkland Islands is that it presently belongs to the United Kingdom therefore the rule of 300 applies, just because the government of Argentina lays claim to these two islands it does not give it any legal right to occupy them. This document makes for interesting reading on the subject:- All you would wish to know about the Falkland Islands. http://www.britishempire.co.uk/maproom/falkland/gettingitright.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I'm more interested in your point that states that any claim on the islands is dictated by how far away from them a country is. I don't think that that was the point he was making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Wolfie, you are choosing to give my statement a false meaning. My point was not that the UK is closer to the Falklands than Argentina (which most people would agree is absurd) but that they islands are legally outside Argentina's zone of influence under UNCLOS: Exclusive Economic Zone At present the sovereignty over the Falklands is disputed, but until such time as it is settled any attempt by Argentina to take the islands would be illegal. :wink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 At present the sovereignty over the Falklands is disputed No it isn't.... we kicked their Argie arses last time. That means we won. That means they are British So no more of this "Malvinas" nonsense please, they are the Falkland Islands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 As I am now the pedantic king of the forum, I will quote exactly what you said. How many people are aware that the Falkland Islands are over 300 miles away from Argentina, and that, for this reason alone, Argentina has no claim to these islands Now please point out what part of that statement have I misunderstood. I think it was Britain's most famous general, the Duke of Wellington, who declared: "It is not clear that we have ever possessed the sovereignty of these islands." He said that in 1829, when he was prime minister -- just four years before the Royal Navy landed troops on the islands, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I didn't say you misunderstood what I said, I think you understood perfectly well what I meant but chose to misrepresent my words. In 1829 it wasn't clear that Britain had ever had sovereignty over the islands, although she had claimed it in the past. However ever since 1833 Britain has maintained a presence on, and a claim to, the islands. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 No it isn't.... we kicked their Argie arses last time. That means we won. That means they are British So no more of this "Malvinas" nonsense please, they are the Falkland Islands I'm with you on this one Baz!, we occupy the islands, we govern the islands, we own the islands, the Falkland Islander want us there for there protection and survival, the only country disputing our presence there is Argentina, backed by Spain. So what is the problem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 the only country disputing our presence there is Argentina, backed by Spain. So what is the problem! Think you will find algy that most of South America, and China support Argentina and the United States have now moved from one of total support of Britain to one of being Neutral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted January 30, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 The sovereignty of the Falklands is under dispute: The UN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 If the Argies want it, guess they'll have to try and take it again - beats playing them at football! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 The only people disputing the sovereignty are the Argies..... and they matter squat. There may well be a hand over in the future, but not while the deaths of all those British troops lies so fresh in the minds of the British. Any government that even entertains handing over the Falklands would face a backlash never before seen..... Our governments have already spat on the graves of the servicemen who died keeping the Germans at bay in WW2 by signing away most of our sovereignty to Brussels.... they wouldn't risk doing it again so soon........ would they?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Our governments have already spat on the graves of the servicemen who died keeping the Germans at bay in WW2 by signing away most of our sovereignty to Brussels.... they wouldn't risk doing it again so soon........ would they?? Wouldn't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Wouldn't they? Apparently not, they`re sending one of the new type destroyers down to patrol around the Falklands. Just flexing our muscles!!!!!!!!! Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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