Peter T Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Being civilised has to apply to both sides. Sometimes in life harsh punishment/execution is required to get people's attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Well I know my opinion doesn't really count as I live in America and not England - but my personal feeling is that they should be put to death - Texas wants to speed up the process Here is the story: TEXAS: Murderer aims to speed up execution In a move that could trim his stay on Texas' death row from the norm of about 10 years to less than 2, condemned killer Selwyn P. Davis wants to waive most of his appeals, according to his lawyer. Ariel Payan, Davis' appeals lawyer, declined to say why Davis doesn't want to carry out all of his appeals. During his October trial in Travis County, Davis' lawyers said he conceded that he fatally stabbed Regina Lara, his ex-girlfriend's mother, at her 381/2 Street apartment. But they argued that his crime was not committed in the course of a burglary and robbery, as charged, and that therefore it didn't fit Texas' definition of capital murder. Davis killed Lara during a 2-day crime spree that began when he beat his ex-girlfriend, fracturing her eye socket, and poured rubbing alcohol over her head and threatened to set her on fire, according to testimony. During the capital murder trial, Davis stuck his middle finger up at Lara's family. It is uncommon for death row inmates to waive their appeals, and some defendants who initially say they don't want to appeal change their minds, according to death penalty lawyers. These include William Murray, a North Texas man condemned in 1998. Murray, convicted of killing an elderly woman in Kaufman, said in 1999 that he wanted his execution expedited. He is still on death row after years of appeals, including a legal fight to reinstate his appellate rights. Just over a year after Angel Maturino Resendiz was sentenced to death in 2000 for killing a Houston doctor, the confessed serial killer acknowledged his guilt and said he wanted to waive his appeals in the case. But his mental competency to do so was questioned, and a series of appeals was eventually filed on his behalf. He was executed in 2006. The average stay on Texas' death row is 10 years and 3 months, according to the Texas Department of Criminal Justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 The average stay on Texas' death row is 10 years and 3 months The crazy thing is Mary; the average UK murderer would be well into his time in an open prison by then!! Also, an online poll by Yahoo once asked the question "How long is the average life sentence"...........the top answer was "Not Long Enough" says it all really, unfortunately our politicians do not listen to the will of the people, they just listen to their own conscience; which is not what we voted for them to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 In another thread, Kije stated that the last poll he had read showed a 50-50 split between for and against capital punishment..... I would beg to differ and question which poll it was he saw (maybe the "todays Toga" magazine ran one that the rest of us missed) In late 2009, Channel 4 ran a programme called "The Execution of Gary Glitter" which was a fictional account of how gary Glitter was executed for his crimes against children....and for being a raging kiddy fiddler. The programme was watched by many many millions of people and was pretty good by all accounts As part of the programme, Ipsos MORI carried out a poll which gave the following results: 70 per cent think the UK should still have the death penalty as the maximum possible penalty for at least one of the twelve different types of crime surveyed 73 per cent agree (50 per cent ‘strongly agree’) that ‘the views of the public are being ignored by politicians and the Government when setting maximum sentences and penalties for serious crimes’ 76 per cent agree (51 per cent ‘strongly agree’) that ‘there should be more open debate in the UK about the penalties for serious crimes, including the death penalty’ 77 per cent agree (56 per cent ‘strongly agree’) that they ‘are concerned that the maximum penalties (or sentences) that are set in the UK for child abuse are not severe enough’ I'd say that was more the view of the public..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 That was 2009 Baz, If a child is murdered tomorrow and it makes the headlines , and you do a poll on the death sentence, it is likely to go up briefly and then fall back after a few days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 12, 2011 Report Share Posted August 12, 2011 But always and consistently, the majority of the public in any surveys carried out have been in favour of the return of the death penalty.... Unfortunately, the liberal doo gooders are too firmly entrenched in the corridors of power to let it happen.... but we can live in hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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