Lt Kije Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Peter was it the forieners bad work or did they get the blame because they were not their to stick up for themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Not sure, but one of our former posters (by the name of Peter) actually looked round the place. According to him, shoddy workmanship abounded. If they did the work, it was their fault PLUS the guy who supervised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 I thought that all stages of building work was inspected by the council who agreed to let it go on or some reputable inspection service. Â Footings in correctly? Yes, tick the box carry on to the next stage. No, put right the fault and get the inspector back before any more work is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 Do they have the manpower to do that these days? I was talking more snagging lists than serious faults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted March 28, 2011 Report Share Posted March 28, 2011 If they did the work  I agree Peter........... If they did the work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 I used to buy apples from Bents garden centre, not sure if the fruit shop is still their, They were all British varieties very nice, not one of them had been near nitrogen. They did not look as nice and shiny as the supermarket ones but taste is everything  Very difficult to get apples that haven't been near nitrogen, given that the atmosphere is 78% nitrogen. Perhaps they grow them on the moon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 2, 2011 Report Share Posted April 2, 2011 Apples are also stored in Nitrogen atmosphere so they stay fresh asperity, I would have thought you would have known that, but then again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Apples are also stored in Nitrogen atmosphere so they stay fresh asperity, I would have thought you would have known that, but then again  I think you will find that they are stored in an oxygen deficient atmosphere. It isn't the nitrogen that keeps them fresh but the lack of oxygen which stops them oxydising (oxydise - oxygen, see the link? But then again ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 I think you will find asperity, when they take the oxygen out they pump nitrogen in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 That may be true, but it doesn't alter the fact that it's the lack of oxygen that preserves the fruit, not the presence of nitrogen which is what you were claiming in the first place. Anyway wriggle on ltKije Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 The storing of apples is done in a nitrogen atmosphere, thats what I was claiming and I am correct, why are you being so pedantic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 The ideal way to store apples is to cool them to around zero degrees Celsius as soon as possible after picking them and store them in a well ventilated area with humidity in the range of 85-95%. If apples are frozen they will spoil quickly after thawing. Very large apple producers also have controlled atmospheres where they replace the oxygen in the storage chamber with nitrogen gas to reduce cellular respiration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Peter T Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Â So why didn't you say that in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 I did Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 They were all British varieties very nice, not one of them had been near nitrogen. Â This is what you said LtKije. And all I'm doing is trying to educate you as to the reality that, as 78% of the air we breathe is actually nitrogen, it would be very difficult to find an apple that hadn't been near nitrogen. Is that concept a bit difficult for you to get your grey matter around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Anyway I can't hang around giving pearls of wisdom, we're just leaving for Guernsey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 I thought the people I was talking to were educated and new apples were stored in a nitrogen atmosphere, obviously I was wrong  When you go to these stores you will find their are Nitrogen generators. They pump Nitrogen in which pushes the air out. They do not remove the oxygen as you were insinuating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Whichever way look at it, it ain't natural. My Dad was storing apples for the winter, 60 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 On that Peter I agree, Locally grown apples are the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 3, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 That seems to be right at the core of the issue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 I thought the people I was talking to were educated.  and  and new apples were stored in a nitrogen atmosphere.  thank heavens for education! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 Is their something wrong with educated and new Baz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 3, 2011 Report Share Posted April 3, 2011 I thought you knew...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted April 4, 2011 Report Share Posted April 4, 2011 Besides using fresh for new I don't, and the use of new was deliberate because storing apples in nitrogen keeps them fresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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