observer Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Seems 72% of the population believe themselves to be "middle class" - well given that "working class" is now perhaps a misnomer - what class are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 As I work for a living I must be working class I suppose Does it matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Can't say I've ever thought about it. To me 'class' is somewhere I used sit during lessons at school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I was born to be top class, inate breedin and all that, but have settled for "I know my place". Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 According to Mrs sid I am in a class of my own. not quite sure though if she meant it as a compliment or and insult.OH well I started off working class (despite a grammar school education), worked myself up to an office job, which would put me as middle class, then back down to working class after suffering a nervous breakdown. Now consider myself as a classic case of don't know or really care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 For some reason, the British have always clung to a sense of "class", so everyone knows their place in a deferential society. However, new money has somewhat blurred traditional boundaries, even so, one's class is usually announced when one opens one's mouth. As Asp says, if one works for a living, imo one is assumed to be "working class"; this then leaves two other groups - those who have never had to work but have money and breeding; and those who have never worked but have no money and breed like rabbits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I go to work for Mr Hardacre in the mill, that makes me Working class I am the Mill Manager at Mr Hardacre?s mill therefore I must be Middle class I am Mr Hardacre and have the name Hardacre?s Mill over the gate of the mill, I AM UPPERCLASS!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Everyone "working" at the mill is working class; the Upper Class will have shares in the mill, while the new "lower" class will think working at the mill to be too menial, so will continue to rely on benefits! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Obs, those that you describe as having breeding, don't think of themselves as upper class they believe they are superior to that and would describe themselves as nobility or privileged to me they are hangers on and as you say most have never contributed a days work in their life. Come the revolution comrades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Everyone "working" at the mill is working class; the Upper Class will have shares in the mill, while the new "lower" class will think working at the mill to be too menial, so will continue to rely on benefits! Not quite accurate obs, methinks being a shareholder of the mill does not alter your status in society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 As we know from current "revolutions", the key player is the Army - all recruits into the Army swear an oath to the Queen, not to the Parliament, the Country or the People. The Queen represents the pinnacle of our class structure, with everyone below scrambling for their niche on the slippery pyramid! PS. If you have sufficient capital, your money works in your stead, thus your no longer working class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egbert Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Under the original definitiion, the "middle class" consisted of professional people - and there were very few recognised professions in those days - doctors, lawyers, perhaps architects, accoundants. Anyone below them were working class. The landed gentry above them were upper class. I think the point is this: You can't help what class you were born into. You have no say in the matter. Unfortunately you do get some people who think they are better than most other people, and some people who, through some sort of inverted snobbery, despise those who happen to have been born more fortunate than they. However, in my view, in the present day, "class", while it still exists, has nothing whatsover to do with money. If it did, Posh, Becks, Wayne Rooney, Elton John, etc, etc, would all be aristocracy. Ye Gods - I think I would sooner tug my forelock to the original artistocracy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 It doesn't matter to me if somebody is middle, working, or upper class. I treat them all with an equal amount of contempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 I have a classy middle! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Peasants! Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Peasants! Happy days harry it's only the upper class who are allowed to shoot em' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Working class of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 Even Obama never uses that word Mary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 So what class are you then Obs... other than one of your own Is there a 'unique class' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted March 16, 2011 Report Share Posted March 16, 2011 under class....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Sid Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 So you are a peasant under class Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 I happen to think all folk are first class, until they prove different! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 Everybody says that Obs, but apart from we paragons, most people have made their minds up at first glance or within half a minute. I can tell a peasant a mile away, possibly cos I are one. A lot of peasants on the internet have merely changed a letter in serf. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted March 18, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 As James Coburn said in "Cross of Iron" - " a man is generally what he believes himself to be". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algy Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 Wow! obs, if James Coburn said that, then it must be true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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