observer Posted February 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Well she's still at it - oh that cruel Council cutting services to the most vunerable - errm, hang on a minute; who's Gov spent us into this mess with money they didn't have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Well she would say that wouldn't she. The Liebour party are in group denial of any responsibility. "It was a big boy did it and then ran away" (Gordon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Yes but who is almost doubling the adult social care transport service charges here though Yes labour made a mess of things but that is no excuse for the current local decision makers to try and make a few savings or increase their income from the this area ie vunerable and needy people. I'm rather disgusted with them actually !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 There is a worldwide economic crisis, so how did 'Gormless Gordie' manage to be effective enough to cause that? It's the 'big boys' in banking that have caused the mess ..... but they didn't 'run away' they are still sitting there, laughing at the plebs running around blaming each other whilst they are still collecting their big fat bonus cheques! Where national politics are concerned they are all the same! so shouldn't we all be joining forces and booting the lot of them out? Whatever, Diz is right, what is happening on a national level can be no excuse for what is currently being inflicted on us here in Warrington. There are probably only 2 men and a handful of dedicated sheep driving the town on a course of destruction, but they are in 'safe seats' so the only way to get rid of them is to empty all the alliance chairs in the town hall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Yes we know about the Banks, and the Bankers, and the US sub-prime mortgage market - the world was living on credit - and so was the UK (Labour) Government. Gordy had the opportunity to tighten regulation on the Banks, but in sucking up to the City, chose even lighter touch regulation. They ran up a deficit that was costing us one in every four pounds to service - SO yes Labour was a party to the fiasco, and now the binge is over, we've got the financial hangover. And yes, the Coalition are probably cutting too far too fast - but under any regime, belts would have to be tightened, and that dominoes down to Local Authorities too. And the supreme irony is, that after the pain, we'll get Labour again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 I can not blame labour for the recession simply because the sub prime mortgages, what i will blame labour for is the ?4 trillion debt (including pension liabilities). Labour, to gain votes does 2 things:- 1) employs a mass of people to work in the public sector. 2) encourages mass immigration as immigrants tend to vote towards the left. Simply astonishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted February 10, 2011 Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Agreed Ricky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2011 Brown was aware of the irresponsibility of "the City" and the dark financial clouds building on the horizon (or so he now claims), but failed to increase banking regulation at the opportune moment, in fact the opposite, by increasing the "light touch" policies originated under Thatcher. Not only that; but, like millions of credit card holders, proceeded on a "I want it, I want it now" spending binge using borrowed money, which ran up an historical national debt to the point of bancrupcy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Labour, to gain votes does 2 things:- 2) encourages mass immigration as immigrants tend to vote towards the left. That will account for Labours vote changing from 13m in 1950 to 10m in 2001 and 9m in 2005 then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Labour, to gain votes does 2 things:- 2) encourages mass immigration as immigrants tend to vote towards the left. That will account for Labours vote changing from 13m in 1950 to 10m in 2001 and 9m in 2005 then Not really, the indiginous population couldn't be bothered so the immigrants made up the numbers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Labour, to gain votes does 2 things:- 2) encourages mass immigration as immigrants tend to vote towards the left. That will account for Labours vote changing from 13m in 1950 to 10m in 2001 and 9m in 2005 then Not really, the indiginous population couldn't be bothered so the immigrants made up the numbers.... Baz even for you this statement makes no sense. What exactly are you trying to say????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Think you'll find that many were detered from registering to vote by the poll tax; the "illegal" immigrants won't be registered anyway; and large swathes of the great unwashed probably don't see any point in voting anyway (and maybe they have a point!). If they did vote, they would tend to vote Labour, which is allegedley the reason the last Gov wished to encourage immigration and voter registration. Likewise, it would be interesting to see which way the prison population would vote, assuming they are actually interested in voting, rather than claining the compen for not being allowed to?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 The Poll Tax? (Community Charge). Replaced by Council Tax in 1993, 18 years ago when people eligible to vote today had only just been born. I hardly think thats a factor in the voting apathy of today. Back to the dream factory Obs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted February 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 Never heard of a culture developing Asp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Stop talking rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Baz even for you this statement makes no sense. What exactly are you trying to say????? It was a joke........ and how did you post at 9:36? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P J Posted February 12, 2011 Report Share Posted February 12, 2011 Baz even for you this statement makes no sense. What exactly are you trying to say????? It was a joke........ and how did you post at 9:36? I'm allowed to stay up late at the weekends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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