Vive les Francais sanglante

[Eagle]

You will be telling us next that John Wayne didn't win the war for us.

[Lt Kije]

Thats below the belt Eagle, everybody knows John Wayne signal handedly killed those pesky red skins, and then in 1944 stormed Omaha beach on his own, all before breakfast

[Bazj]

I feel I am being insulting.... I just say it how I see it. You may think your EU corrupted ideals are right, I and many more don't.

 

The fact you don't seem to like or seem to be proud to be British is something I find distasteful and disrespectful to those who have fought and died for the country.

 

I know it is hard for you to take Kije, but Britain did fight the Germans somewhat singlehandedly until they (Germans) messed up and had a go at their biggest allie; Russia and brought them into the war against them having fought alongside them in Poland etc., but it was still almost a year after the weather primarily defeated the German attack on Russia before the Russians started to kick back.

 

Your view of History seems to be of a Glorious and victorious France battling against the German opressors and winning a great victory (oh and a couple of British and Americans were there too)

 

As someone has already pointed out; you live on the wrong side of the English Channel! (Or I imagine it is called La Manche in your house so as not to glorify the English!!)

[Lt Kije]

Baz, A good post,

 

It might amaze you, I am proud to be British I think we just choose to show it in different ways, Me being pro European has no effect on me being proud to be British, I can be both. I am aware that Britain stood alone atleast in the West, for some years and it is some thing to be proud of, But when we stood alone we were loosing, we were loosing in Africa, where we reatreated back in Egypt, The only way we could get at the Germans was to bomb them, We relyied on the Americans for almost everything militarily, they gave us ships and tanks under lend lease, which we still paying them for up untill the mid 60's, which in my opiniun was wrong but I think that is another debate.

[observer]

Whilst I agree with your sentiment Baz, to be "proud" of something, requires some reason to be proud. The generation that defended this Country in WW2, actually aspired to something better when they came home, and voted accordingly. However, all that aspiration has been destroyed by subsequent "invasions" and the antics of PC liberals.

[Bazj]

We relyied on the Americans for almost everything militarily, they gave us ships and tanks under lend lease

 

Almost everything? so we didn't make Lancaster Bombers, Wellington Bombers, Manchester Bombers, Mosquios, Spitfires, Hurricanes and heaven knows what else./ We manufactured quite a lot of stuff here Kije, Planes were built in tunnels under the Longbridge car works in Birmingham, Mosquitos were made of wood and fabric and were built in houses and shops and everywhere that could put a few bits together.

 

Yes, we had stuff off America.... the ships were mainly to replace things sunk by the U Boats, but once we got hold of an Enigma the tide turned on that little foray....If only U531 had found the Enigma earlier

 

Finally the Lancaster and Wellington crews went on nightime bombing raids over Germany so please don't just assume they were all Americans!!

[Lt Kije]

More Merlin engines were made in the America under license than were made in the UK Baz, not sure about Lancasters but Mosquito's were made in the States and Canada. The States would just so much better at mass production and they had more resorses and people.

 

As to Observers last post I find in complete crap, yes they did aspire to something better, but to say they didn't get it, is just crap he has no idea.

[Eagle]

Identifying individuals in the Police Force must be very difficult in the Police Force, how many PC Liberals does Obs know?

[observer]

Think one "liberal ex- copper"stood for Mayor of London at their last election?! Kije: Tell you what's "cr*p", a Country that can't even withdraw citizenship from or deport Abu Hamza - we're now the door mat of the world - nowt to "be proud" of.

[Lt Kije]

The generation that defended this Country in WW2, actually aspired to something better when they came home, and voted accordingly. However, all that aspiration has been destroyed by subsequent "invasions" and the antics of PC liberals

 

I take your last post to mean you were LIEING and you actually have no idea what the majority of veterans actually think, sometimes Obs you are truly PATHETIC

[observer]

Most veterans I've talked to, now wonder what they actually fought for - but maybe, as they cower in their homes for fear of walking the streets at night, that it's just an age thing!

[Dizzy]

A little calmer please Lt

[Lt Kije]

The veterans you talk to Obs are probably the few you meet at BNP meetings, funny the ones I talk to are immensely proud of what they did and still are. I would never presume to talk for all though Obs like you, that is what I find so sick about your post

[observer]

You mean BNP meetings are full of Vets?!

[Lt Kije]

Don't talk for people you obviously no nothing about, To persue your own twisted ideas.

[observer]

Running on supposition again Kije!

[Dizzy]

X Factor and catchups all finished now Obs? Has Mrs Obs gone to bed too or something ? I could set my watch by you

[observer]

best set it again then!

[Lt Kije]

Before accusing anyone of "Running on supposition" may I suggest you actually read most of your own posts Obs

[observer]

No Kije, when your playing the ball it's proposition, when trying to play the man, it's supposition!

[Lt Kije]

sup?po?si?tion ?(sp-zshn)

n.

1. The act of supposing.

2. Something supposed; an assumption.

[observer]

precisely

[Bazj]

precisely

 

shouldn't that be:

 

pre-cise-ly??

[observer]

Much too subtle Baz!

[Lt Kije]

Its you who asume's Obs