observer Posted October 27, 2010 Report Share Posted October 27, 2010 Full Machievelli points for the Tories then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 My point is that they are entitled to receive the minimum wage as a basic from their employer. Seems factories in Britain are now paying employees ?3.50 per hour for a 60 hour week, but changing the hours worked to 35 on the payslip to fulfill the minimum working wage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 You mean the workers are being exploited - surely not?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Seems factories in Britain are now paying employees ?3.50 per hour for a 60 hour week, but changing the hours worked to 35 on the payslip to fulfill the minimum working wage. where is this Wolfie? Not seen that one in the news..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1327599/The-High-Street-fashions-slaves-British-sweatshops.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Shocking!!! but then the second comment after the story sums things up quite well.... Hence the reason why our big business leaders and captains of industry keep going on about the cap on immigration being bad for them. The more immigrants that come the more wages can be reduced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 And hence why the big business leaders and captains of industry don't want to recognise the unions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 And hence why the big business leaders and captains of industry don't want to recognise the unions. I esn't matter a fig Robbo.... Unions are not outlawed in the workplace; you will just never stop places like the one highlighted as long as there are people willing to do the work for that amount of pay Chances are they will be claiming benefits too if they are entitled to them and so probably see the money as a bit extra.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Their was a good Dispatches program on channel 4 about clothes factories in Coventry making cloths, and paying staff ?2.50 per hour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Who' s responsible for enforcing the minimum wage legislation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Their was a good Dispatches program on channel 4 about clothes factories in Coventry making cloths, and paying staff ?2.50 per hour The staff could report the factory as it is illegal to pay less than the minimum wage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 To whom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 The Inland Revenue enforces the National Minimum Wage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Thought you would have known that Obs If an employer is not paying the nat min wage employees can either try and resolve with the employer OR they can contact the Pay and Work Rights Helpline at HMRC. They will then investigate the complaint on the employees behalf and the employer will be ordered to pay the right amount PLUS sometimes any arrears at the current rate. or.... An employee can put in a claim to an Employment Tribunal and civil courts and it the case is won the employer could face paying out upto 80 times the hourly rate of the NMW in force at the time. or something like that anyway. Chances are you would lose your job though eh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 The chances are that the person earning the low wages shouldn't be either working or probably shouldn't even be in the country..... so two wrongs don't make a right!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzy Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Good point... I was presuming they were legal workers who were being exploited and I'd forgotten about what was said in the earlier posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 To be fair Baz some on the dispatches program were illegal, but some weren't and were to frightened to complain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Correct Lt, and as mentioned before there are thousands in the restaurant and hairdressing industries that are getting cheated by employers that use every way possible to bend the rules, while still complying with the minimum working wage rate, but with the threat of sacking hanging over their employees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 So, if you know the law is being broken, why don't you report them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverlady54 Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 The Despatches programme was interesting - it shows how disconnected the retail stores are from their suppliers. If they had proper procedures in place, the 1st line supplier would be checked up on every so often to make sure they were doing things correctly. Profit margins seem to blind them. It was dreadful to see the conditions those people were working in, this is one place where Health & Safety should be at the forefront of the battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 So, if you know the law is being broken, why don't you report them? Who said the law was being broken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Completly agree Silverlady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Thought paying below the "minimum wage" was illegal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 Thought paying below the "minimum wage" was illegal? are you still asleep? Paying below the minimum wage is illegal but in the restaraunt trade and in the hairdressing trade, some unscrupulous employers take their staff tips into account and pay them including their tips up to the minimum wage!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted November 10, 2010 Report Share Posted November 10, 2010 Thankyou Baz, I thought it was me for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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