observer Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Now the Yanks are leaving Iraq, time to total up the cost:- $1 TRILLION in cash and 4,000 young soldiers dead with over 30,000 maimed for life - plus over 100,000 Iraqis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 An ex ambassador made me smile. He said that mistakes had been made and they would learn from them. What did they learn from Vietnam? What did they learn from the Russians in Afghanistan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 What did they learn from Vietnam How to loose a war What did they learn from the Russians in Afghanistan That the Russian Armed forces were crap, And the USA better go their and show them how to do it------------------NOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Well it's not over by a long chalk: the Yanks still have 50,000 "advisory" troops here, scheduled to leave next year and the same number of "contractors". The Iraqis still havn't formed a Government, 6 months after their "democratic" election; and suicide bombings remain the order of the day. In short, we are leaving anarchy behind and (as some of us said at the beginning), the Kurds, Sunnis and Shias will soon be kicking off - come back Saddam, all's forgiven! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Kije, the Yanks didn't lose in Vietnam..... they just didn't win! Personally I was suprised they didn't just nuke the place and be done with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Now here's me thinking Vietnam is now ONE Nation, free from foreign occupation! On that basis Baz, we could lay claim to the USA - we didn't lose, just didn't win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 the Yanks didn't lose in Vietnam..... they just didn't win How very American of you to say that Its like saying Germany did not loose WW2 they just didn't win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Its like saying Germany did not loose WW2 they just didn't win Well when you compare Germanys standing in the EU and how the French cowtail all over them, I'd say they did pretty well out of WW2 in the end. We spent millions and billions rebuilding their country for them when the money would have been better spent over here.... Such is are the victors spoils, especially now when Germany has such power and influence over our lives here in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Touch of Hot Chocolate. "Everyone's a winner baby". lol Was Vietnam a strategic withdrawal or a retreat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted August 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Well if you recall the US helicopters flying from the roof of the US Embassy in Hanoi, taking the last ecacuees to US Carriers, then watched the excess helicopters being tipped over the sides of the Carriers - it looked more like a rout than a reteat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Baz we are talking about a war not the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Baz we are talking about a war not the EU Give it time Kije..... give it time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Such is are the victors spoils, especially now when Germany has such power and influence over our lives here in the UK They have as much influence over us as we do over them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asperity Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 And do you really believe that LtKije? Given how much influence Germany and France have in Brussels compared with the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 Of course he believes it...... that is how indoctrinated he is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted August 21, 2010 Report Share Posted August 21, 2010 You mean you don't beleive it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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