observer Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 It seems clear, that the politicians are gagging to bring the troops home from Afghanistan, but for the sake of the dead soldiers families, they need to make a withdrawal appear honourable and thus not a waste of lives - so it goes on. With now one soldier a day getting killed, and for every one killed, at least two or three returning minus their limbs - perhaps it's time they struck a deal with the Taliban, and concentrated their efforts on a covert and surgical elimination of Al Queda? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Durnim Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 It would be interesting to know how many military personel in total from all nations in Afghanistan have lost their brave lives so far or have been injured. I have tried searching Google but no definite answer. Not a day goes by without reading the news that another soldier has been killed, died through injury or accident in the war zone. I also wonder what affect/trauma all these victims/casualties have on all the other medical personnel, here and in the heat of battle, who they have to treat and perform life saving surgery on a daily or hour-by-hour basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Gagging to bring the troops home but afraid of a back-lash from America is perhaps the main reason. How many people in total have been killed in ths futile war, civilian and military?. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie Posted June 24, 2010 Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 How many people in total have been killed in ths futile war, civilian and military?.Happy days A rather unfortunate signature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2010 Well Lege, the Canadians have called it a day - and no "backlash" from the Yanks. The reality is of course, that Obama too, can't wait to get out of this fiscal and politically unsustainable quagmire. McCrystal asked him for 30,000 more troops to bring matters to a swift conclusion, the reality of course, is a) Generals always ask for more troops and the number required would exceed 500,000 to begin to provide the levels of security necessary for political and economic initiatves to win the the hearts and minds of the Afghan population - which, given the corrupt nature of the Karsai Gov - would again be an exercise in futility. The only way out is to strike a deal with the Taliban, and concentrate on targeting Al Queda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry hayes Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 I note that it is rumoured that the police and others are to be cut down in size. Seems strange that we spend billions (I believe) "safeguarding" the Afghans but we can't protect our own. Also overseas aid appears untouchable. Happy days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 Overseas aid is untouchable because we don't want to upset the johnny foreign types and make them come over here and blow buses up ..... so we keep giving them money we can't afford to keep them happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted June 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 I think the theory is Baz, that we give them money so they can buy things from us - like weapons of war - so they can continue with their civil wars etc or their corrupt leaders can siphon some away in a Swiss Bank. As for Afghanistan, I believe they've found rich deposits of various ores and there's still that pipeline from the S/Russian oil fields to the Gulf to consider! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevofaz25 Posted June 30, 2010 Report Share Posted June 30, 2010 http://www.icasualties.org/OEF/index.aspx Tells it how it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 Our lads are getting killed over in Helmand "to keep our streets free from terrorism" - perhaps it's time to remind ourselves that the 7/7 bombers were men from Yorkshire, who'd never been to Afghanistan in their lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahl Posted July 8, 2010 Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 time to get out of Afghanistan again. Don't politicians ever learn from history? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2010 History is an inconvenient obstacle to political expediency! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 9, 2010 Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 Our lads are getting killed over in Helmand "to keep our streets free from terrorism" - perhaps it's time to remind ourselves that the 7/7 bombers were men from Yorkshire, who'd never been to Afghanistan in their lives. They went to Pakistan, And could have gone to Afghanistan as their is no proper border between the Countries we will never no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2010 They don't need to go to Afghanistan; brainwashing can occur in a Madrassa in Pakistan or a Mosque over here; geography has nothing to do with it, religious intolerance dwells in the mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 10, 2010 Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 I agree Obs, that intolerance dwells in the mind, a bit like your intolerance for immigrants I was just correcting your post that was wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2010 Well, as some of "the immigrants", like Abu Hamza; spend their time here preaching jihad, perhaps my intolerance is well founded! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 But you must agree its all in your mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 No Kyje, it's the surreal nature of life today; wherby common sense no longer exists, and has been substituted for by PC Human Rights nonesense. EG. Hamza can't be extradited to the US, cos they might give him a stiff sentence; he can't be deported to his home country of Jordan, cos they might torture him - who cares - he's a problem - get rid of him, and the rest of the illegals over here to milk the State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 11, 2010 Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Its all in your mind Obs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2010 Seems your record has stuck in a groove Kyje! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 12, 2010 Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Its all in your mind, Do they still do lobotomies or have you had one, Thats it your left side isn't talking to your right side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted July 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2010 Obviosly your deranged meandering is your way of compensating for a lack of considered arguements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Its all in your mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 I wish you two would stop insulting our troops with your name calling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt Kije Posted July 13, 2010 Report Share Posted July 13, 2010 Not quite sure what you mean Peter, I fully support our troops in Afghanistan, and support the reasons for them being their. And I would never insult British troops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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