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In these dark days of fiscal austerity, are there any "no go" areas for service cuts? The decision by CFA to downgrade Birchwood Fire Station from a full time, 24/7 fire engine, to a part time, "Trumpton" set up, is obviously animating local residents and politicians. In the good old days: when Warrington had it's own Fire Service, it had 3 full time fire engines and a retained fire engine - it now has only two - since then, the Town has got bigger and so to the risks; BUT them days we also had our own Police Force, we had several hospitals - we now have half an hospital, with the other half at Widnes - so is this progress and the more efficient use of resources or are we being short changed on essential services? :?:shock:

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I thought we had several fire stations, Winwick Road, Birchwood and possibly Stockton Heath?

 

Bill :)

 

And is that enough, given the population of Warrington and the surrounding areas?

Do you really want part-time firemen manning Birchwood and St. Heath?

 

Your house is on fire, you are trapped upstairs, and you have to wait for the fire brigade to respond to their beepers and then get to the station?

 

Not a happy scenario in IMO. :shock:

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Bill. S/Heath was there in the good old days too; with a Retained Pump; before Birchwood existed or the N/Town developments, Warrington had 3 full time pumps and a retained pump, for a much smaller area and population. Since those days, we've had M/Way and N/Town developments, thus increasing overall risk. Arguably, the current Birchwood pump is the 3rd pump from Winwick road, sited closer to the Birchwood area. :shock:

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Warrington and Birchwood stations are 'whole time' stations ie manned 24 hours. Stockton Heath is 'day crew' ie manned during the day only but they are on call at night. Never knew that :shock:

 

The fire service website is really good and lists all incidents that the various stations have been called too.... Birchwood seems to have the highest number of incidents and performance detailed than the other two stations although I guess that could be as they are nearer to the motorway ??

 

Interesting site anyway although as dishy as they all are in uniform I hope that I never have to call them for help :oops:

 

http://www.cheshirefire.gov.uk/aboutus.asp?menuid=1573

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Just to put the two systems into perspective: full time crews from Warrington or Birchwood would beat retained crews (at night) to M/Way incidents on the M6 in S/Heath's area - the simple reason being - full time crews instantly respond from their Fire Station, Retained crews have to get from home to their Fire Station first. So if your ever trapped in the wreckage of your car in the early hours - you decide which system you prefer. :shock: As with all services you get what your prepared to pay for. :wink:

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Crassus, the Roman Patrician who beat Spartacus; used his slaves as a fire service, inflating his charges as the fire raged - thus becoming one of the richest men in ancient Rome! Under the Empire, part of the Pretorian Guard (the Vigiles) provided a permanent public fire fighting service. In the film "Gangs of New York" an example of the competing nature of "Insurance" Brigades was shown! :wink:

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'Fire Marks' were introduced to identify insurers of an individual property and the insurers funded their own fire fighters. Such fire fighters would only attend fires in properties carrying their own insurance company fire marks although in rural areas other insurers would often pay for assistance. Warrington Museum has a good collection of fire marks and reproduction of some of the rarer ones are made.

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So if your ever trapped in the wreckage of your car in the early hours - you decide which system you prefer. :shock:As with all services you get what your prepared to pay for. :wink:

 

Do we actually have a choice though Obs..... seems the choices are actually 'made' FOR us regardless of what we are asked to pay towards it :evil::cry::?

 

I am not having a go at the fire brigade by the way as I think they do a superb job. But a cut in any services supplied by either the fire brigade, ambulance service, police, hospitals or indeed a cut in any level of funding to them is NOT the way to go for a town which is constantly EXPANDING !!

 

The bigger that Warrington and it's surrounding areas gets with over development, roads, increased traffic, increased visitors etc etc then the more these services will be actually needed.......if cuts are made and services reduced then lives will be put at risk and sadly even lost die to delays :cry::evil:

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That's why we have reasonable service levels Diz; up until now at any rate - we're now going to get taxed and services cut at the same time, to balance the books! :shock: Someone needs to tell MZZZZ Jones, as I believe she's kicking off again about the Council stopping free swimming! :roll:

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