Bazj Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 now you see the problem is that the toga wearing softies who now run this once great country are responsible for making the phrases above make out that the user is some kind of racist. fugtifino, can I ask wht planet the phrase "blue sky thinking" came from? Is that a totally politically correct bit of nonsense that they taught you at niceness school? because to me, that is the way it looks..... oh, and what is wrong with the phrase "Gordon Clown"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted April 18, 2010 Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 Shouldn't that be robbin clown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2010 some folk have to concentrate on style Baz, as content eludes them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 perhaps you could show by quote, where I've ever used 73 of those old man in the pub quotes LP? What, repeat 73 examples of your grumpiness and have people think I agreed? Not a chance..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 can I ask wht planet the phrase "blue sky thinking" came from? Ah, that was the planet B*ll*x, just my little joke. toga wearing softies - number 101? the phrases above make out that the user is some kind of racist. - see 36. "Gordon Clown" is just a bit hackneyed and lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 OK the FG, please tell me exactly what a racist is. You can spout lists as much as you want, but I am interested to know how you would define a racist because your list encompasses every possible phrase to describe the mess our country is in and any possible feelings anyone has towards another of a different ethnic background. My views are quite clear, I want a stop to uncontrolled immigration, I don't want the Lib Dems stupid amnesty for illegal immigrants, I do not want to forcibly repatriate immigrants except for those who are either illegals or have failed in their asylum attempts. Personally I don't think that makes me a racist. So what does define a racist? I was playing football in the back garden over the weekend with my neighbours little boys and my own 8 year old son. They are Muslim and are nice kids, as are their parents...... We often help each other out; I fix things for the Grandad and his wife makes the most delicious of curries...... I also beliveve there should be tighter controls on Muslims who visit this country from overseas and for Muslims who nip over to Pakistan for a bit of Koran training...... does the above make me a racist, a sort of racist or almost a racist? I have always thought of racists as the likes of the ones we saw in the 70's and 80's when the NF would go out "paki bashing" and the likes; not very nice stuff as I'm sure most would agree, however nowadays, the toga wearers have turned absolutely everything that is said and done and soured everyone as a racist. I really look forward to your definitions of a racist...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 My rule of thumb is that racists are people who regard others to be somehow inferior because of their ethnicity. toga wearers - DING! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 My rule of thumb is that racists are people who regard others to be somehow inferior because of their ethnicity. toga wearers - DING! so what on earth has the phrase "toga wearer" got to do with ethnicity? You see there you have a prime example of how brainwashing has taught you to think that everyone is a racist. Being a toga wearer doesn't make anyone inferior.... in fact the original toga wearers (the Greeks) were far superior to most of their day. Even being a muslim etc. has nothing to do with ethnicity, would you agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 "Toga wearer" has nothing to do with ethnicity, what I'm dinging at is that I think we now have number 102 for the list of useful phrases. Even being a muslim etc. has nothing to do with ethnicity, would you agree? Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Think you'll be struggling with FG Baz, he's clearly devoid of substance and content, whilst collecting his labels - like the rest of the liberal luvvies, they can't define "racist" cos they can't define "race". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Racism is the point at which a person's attitude and actions towards individuals are based upon or influenced by racial characteristics that are irrelevant to the situation at hand. It's easy to define, and we all know what it is, but it's not always easy to police, because we're not actually telepathic, so it's hard to be 100% certain that offence caused or favouritism was intended. Controlling immigration is not an issue of racism as long as controls apply equally to all applicants. Ditto deportation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 he's clearly devoid of substance Hahahahaha. whilst collecting his labels - like the rest of the liberal luvvies You're the one slapping labels on everyone, not me. Oh, and "liberal luvvies" - DING! 103! they can't define "racist" Er, I just did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 So, given FG is obviously clueless; LP pls tell us the racial groupings into which humanity is divided - and we'll proceed from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Ah, I get it now. You're trying to prove that race doesn't exist: ergo, if there is no such thing as race, then "one" can't be racist! Brilliant!!!!!!* *not You're all smoke and mirrors. Oh, "Smoke and mirrors" - DING! 104! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Far as I am concerned, Obs, there is one race, and it's the Human Race. Every member is an individual and entitled to expect the same basic level of respect, courtesy and assistance from me. I have no idea why some other people find it necessary to label millions of individuals they've never met in crass and idiotic fashion. The Irish are not all thick, the Scots are not all mean and not all Welshmen love sheep in a highly inappropriate manner. I've no idea whether you are a racist or not. Can't read your mind. You know though, so just tell us one way or the other and we can all move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Well FG answered your point about ONE single race - ergo, only one race, racism an impossibility. But, basically there are three main races on the planet, with sub-groupings. The Scots, Irish, Welsh, English, Poles, Japanes and Kenyans arn't "races", they are Nationalities. Jews and Muslims arn't "races", they are religious groupings, no more a "race" than a Christian. So whilsts it's possible to be "racist" about an African Negro or visa versa (as apparently is occuring now in S/Africa and Zimbawe); the casual use of the term "racist" by liberal luvvies is totally incorrect and misplaced. Now to another term that's misused by our luvvies; "zenophobic" (a hatred of foreigners), again, anyone wishing to preserve the demographic integrity of the UK, somehow becomes zenophobic, even though they may actually relish the company and culture of "foreigners" in the context of their own countries or as visiting tourists to this country. Anyone with a rational view of situations has been shouted down by the luvvies over the past few decades, to the point where we're living in a world of PC newspeak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LymmParent Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 race2 ? noun 1 each of the major divisions of humankind, having distinct physical characteristics. 2 racial origin or distinction: rights based on race. 3 a group of people sharing the same culture, language, etc.; an ethnic group. 4 a group of people or things with a common feature. 5 Biology a distinct population within a species; a subspecies. Oxford English Dictionary disagrees with you. Suppose that's a toga wearing liberal now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Er, well, thanks for clearing that up by answering a question nobody asked. (Edit - not you LP). I agree with LP on this one. Oh, and: ergo - DING! 105! and preserve the demographic integrity of the UK - DING! 106! Btw, it's "xenophobic". Tsk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Just a thought Obs, I think you're thinking about this more than might be healthy for you. Seems easy to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 No I'm, not thinking about it, I've thought about it - something you appear incapable of; that's why it "seems easy" to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 It's a stupid argument/discussion anyway. We can all be classed as racist, as in supporting football teams, North South divide and so on. If I was to call someone a white bar steward, would that be deemed racist? Racist imo, only comes into play when hatred is involved, NOT calling the Scots Jock, the Irish Micks and so on. Even the Race Relations board are struggling with the concept these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer Posted April 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 It only comes into play on a one way basis anyway - calling someone a white ******* would go unnoticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazj Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 I have to disagree with LP actually, I aint never met a Scot who wasn't tight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fugtifino Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 calling someone a white ******* would go unnoticed - DING! 107! And, no, it really is very simple Obs, your attempt at sophistry looks like nothing more than a clown dance from here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter T Posted April 20, 2010 Report Share Posted April 20, 2010 like nothing more than a clown dance from here. and where's here? can you explain just what your stance is on these things you keep going DING about? Not much substance to your posts, is the clue in your name? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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