Jump to content

A future fair for all?


observer
 Share

Recommended Posts

  • Replies 52
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

I'll still stick to the ideal that I work for my money and work to pay my taxes and the last place it should be spent on are the work shy and the terminal scroungers like single teenage mums getting council houses.

 

First call for those who don't want to work should be charity not benefits.

 

The ones who bang on about things not being fair are usually the ones who want something for nothing. I don't think it very fair that I should graft my ass off to have the money frittered away by Brown and his no hopers.

 

He was waffling this morning about the public getting every penny back from the banks, but then does nothing when the banks that have been bailed out announce that they are giving bonuses to bank staff while the government is looking at cutting back

 

Take any money the bank puts aside for bonuses and put it back in the treasury pot. Sod the bank bonuses

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Nice post Baz, :evil:

 

What about the people who want to work but cannot, they need help and how would you differentiate between people who want to work and those that don't :?:

 

Well the ones who will take anything as a last resort to put food on the plate and to put pride into their hearts....those are the ones who want to work and the ones who should be supported.

 

The ones who moan about getting less money working than on benefits are the ones who should be pointed in the direction of charity and have their benefits stopped.

 

Simples!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Why is that a problem Obs? I would have said it was a virtue! The problem is with the ones who aren't prepared to go out and make a living for themselves but prefer to sponge off everyone else (euphemistically called "the State") :wink::wink::wink:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It's debateable; BUT I would contend that we have a system (capitalism) in which the immoral act circumvents the current law; as ultimately it's all about the exploitation of one's fellow man. This may be as ethical as the "law of the jungle" but in a civilized society, no more ethical than any form of criminal activity. :?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

To get back to topic, A Future Fair for All, here's a taste of what the past 13 years has brought us:

 

?22,500 of debt for every child born in Britain

 

- 111 tax rises from a government that promised no tax rises at all

 

- The longest national tax code in the world

 

- 100,000 million pounds drained from British pension funds

 

- Gun crime up 57%

 

- Violent crime up 70%

 

- The highest proportion of children living in workless households anywhere in Europe

 

- The number of pensioners living in poverty up by 100,000

 

- The lowest level of social mobility in the developed world

 

- The only G7 country with no growth this year

 

- One in six young people neither earning nor learning

 

- 5 million people on out-of-work benefits

 

- Missing the target of halving child poverty...

 

- Child poverty rising in each of the last three years instead

 

- Cancer survival rates among the worst in Europe

 

- Hospital-acquired infections killing nearly three times as many people as are killed on the roads

 

- Falling from 4th to 13th in the world competitiveness league

 

- Falling from 8th to 24th in the world education rankings in maths

 

- Falling from 7th to 17th in the rankings in literacy

 

- The police spending more time on paperwork than on the beat

 

- Fatal stabbings at an all-time high

 

- Prisoners released without serving their sentences

 

- Foreign prisoners released and never deported

 

- 7 million people without an NHS dentist

 

- Small business taxes going up

 

- Business taxes raised from among the lowest to among the highest in Europe

 

- Tax rises for working people set for after the election

 

- The 10p tax rate abolished

 

- The ludicrous promise to have ended boom and bust

 

- Our gold reserves sold for a quarter of their worth

 

- Our armed forces overstretched and under-supplied

 

- Profitable post offices closed against their will

 

- One of the highest rates of family breakdown in Europe

 

- The ?Golden Rule? on borrowing abandoned because it didn?t fit

 

- Police inspectors in 10 Downing Street

 

- Dossiers that were dodgy

 

- Mandelson resigning the first time

 

- Mandelson resigning the second time

 

- Mandelson coming back for a third time

 

- Bad news buried

 

- Personal details lost

 

- An election bottled

 

- A referendum denied.

 

New Labour. Stamping on the faces of the many, not just the few. Forever.

 

PS ?A future fair for all? is an anagram of ?Our fearful fat liar?

 

:evil::evil:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Somehow Baz if your business goes bump I cannot see you picking up litter. For the minimum wage. Its easy to preach, but it's a bit different when it happens to you.

 

how do you think I started my business in the first place Kije? I lost my job.... and picked my arse up and went and gave it a shot for myself.

 

My business partner and I lived on practically nothing and had each others families round for tea and ate spam fritters and tins of soup and any other stuff we could rustle up for a few quid.... once we had started the limited company, we couldn't get benefits because we were directors!!! We are all classed in the same boat as the likes of the RBS directors and yheir million pound salaries. Single lads who worked with us at the company that went bust got benefits even though the dole knew they would soon be working for us once the company was sorted out.... we got bugger all; despite having wives, kids and mortgages to fund. Even my mortgage insurance wouldn't pay out because I wasn't classed as "officially unemployed" Everything we have now was earned through hard graft and not a penny off the state and if it all ended tomorrow, I would go and try something else; not wallow in self pity like most seem to do these days

 

That's why it really pigs me off when the lefty prats come on here extolling the need for taxing the bosses and the entrepreneurs who have created jobs and wealth instead of giving them a break.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

To get back to topic, A Future Fair for All, here's a taste of what the past 13 years has brought us:

 

?22,500 of debt for every child born in Britain

 

- 111 tax rises from a government that promised no tax rises at all

 

- The longest national tax code in the world

 

- 100,000 million pounds drained from British pension funds

 

- Gun crime up 57%

 

- Violent crime up 70%

 

- The highest proportion of children living in workless households anywhere in Europe

 

- The number of pensioners living in poverty up by 100,000

 

- The lowest level of social mobility in the developed world

 

- The only G7 country with no growth this year

 

- One in six young people neither earning nor learning

 

- 5 million people on out-of-work benefits

 

- Missing the target of halving child poverty...

 

- Child poverty rising in each of the last three years instead

 

- Cancer survival rates among the worst in Europe

 

- Hospital-acquired infections killing nearly three times as many people as are killed on the roads

 

- Falling from 4th to 13th in the world competitiveness league

 

- Falling from 8th to 24th in the world education rankings in maths

 

- Falling from 7th to 17th in the rankings in literacy

 

- The police spending more time on paperwork than on the beat

 

- Fatal stabbings at an all-time high

 

- Prisoners released without serving their sentences

 

- Foreign prisoners released and never deported

 

- 7 million people without an NHS dentist

 

- Small business taxes going up

 

- Business taxes raised from among the lowest to among the highest in Europe

 

- Tax rises for working people set for after the election

 

- The 10p tax rate abolished

 

- The ludicrous promise to have ended boom and bust

 

- Our gold reserves sold for a quarter of their worth

 

- Our armed forces overstretched and under-supplied

 

- Profitable post offices closed against their will

 

- One of the highest rates of family breakdown in Europe

 

- The ?Golden Rule? on borrowing abandoned because it didn?t fit

 

- Police inspectors in 10 Downing Street

 

- Dossiers that were dodgy

 

- Mandelson resigning the first time

 

- Mandelson resigning the second time

 

- Mandelson coming back for a third time

 

- Bad news buried

 

- Personal details lost

 

- An election bottled

 

- A referendum denied.

 

New Labour. Stamping on the faces of the many, not just the few. Forever.

 

PS ?A future fair for all? is an anagram of ?Our fearful fat liar?

 

:evil::evil:

 

Thanks for the list Aspers, crikey, it's even worse than I thought possible. :wink::)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Still living in the past LtKije? Hows about a list on Anthony Eden, or Balfour, or even Pitt the Younger? Sorry your beloved NuLiebour is being shown up for the shower of wastrels they are but the truth hurts sometimes :lol::lol::lol:

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
 Share


×
×
  • Create New...