Creches to close.

[observer]

Interesting to hear mothers complaining that they can no longer keep fit or have a social life if they can't use the local gym. Since when did "keeping fit" require specialised equipment in a gymnasium? A brisk walk with the pram, over the park, a regime of press ups, sit ups etc can all be achieved without any equipment and at nil cost - and if all the mums meet on the park to do it, it covers their social requirements.

[LymmParent]

Perhaps they don't want to be perved at in the park by blokes in raincoats, subjected to the weather or left to walk home in sweaty clothes? Perhaps they'd like to use proper equipment in a pleasant environment and then take a shower afterwards?

 

Just because you like to swing your lycra-clad botty in public places doesn't mean we all do, Obs!

[Bazj]

Then join David Lloyd and don't expect us to fund their fitness regime

[LymmParent]

Quite. We've enough to do funding the single, childless, workshy blokes. Let's get our priorities right!

[Bladderwrack]

Then join David Lloyd and don't expect us to fund their fitness regime

 

 

Ill informed knee jerk comments such as this really do beggar belief!!(I can only presume that you are too young to know better). Surely you dont think that services such as the gym and its chreches come free of charge, do you?? The parents pay their gym fees just like every other member and pay extra fees for use of the creches, the difference being that council run facilities are far more affordable than David Lloyd`s. Something that is exteremely important when you have a family to think of.

Yes the creches do run at a loss, the one i am well informed about runs at less than a 3 figure loss per week (as do many, many council services, should we stop refuse collections too), this despite it never being given any advertising revenue, leaving it "vastly under utilized"! It could actually very be easily run at a profit, quite rare in council terms...

But i think people like you are missing the bigger picture here, All the facilities in warringtons leisure centres are being slowly and systematically "run down" and strangled, creches closing, classes closing, bar facilities etc, this will mean less and less people using the leisure centres in readiness for 2012 and why?? The winwick road project. When this is finally opened, i would bet a months wage that you see a headline reading that it is not viable to keep outlying leisure centres open and you will see them shut one by one!

Also lets try and not forget, peoples jobs and livelihoods are on the line here, lets please not go out of our way to "belittle them" shall we?

[observer]

unfortunately, austerity is now the name of the game.

[Eagle]

Wrack, don't get your bladder in a twist.

If people want to get/keep fit in a specialised venue then they should pay for it rather than expecting tax payers to fund their weekly ldesigner gear posing.

Failing that there is always the cost free outdoors, now that isn't knee jerk or ill informed; if you are worried about knee jerk then you should exercise more.

[Bazj]

bladderdwreck, please don't try to patronise me with your "too young to know better" nonsense, this town is short of money and paying for people to go running in a gym is not something that should be funded by the taxpayer. If the place is making a loss then it should be streamlined, fees increased or shut. As has been said, there are many ways to keep fit and exercise which doesn't involve everyone paying for the few to indulge their fitness fantasies on

 

Bin collection is a totally different kettle of fish as it effects every house in the borough

[Legion]

Then join David Lloyd and don't expect us to fund their fitness regime

 

 

Ill informed knee jerk comments such as this really do beggar belief!!(I can only presume that you are too young to know better). Surely you dont think that services such as the gym and its chreches come free of charge, do you?? The parents pay their gym fees just like every other member and pay extra fees for use of the creches, the difference being that council run facilities are far more affordable than David Lloyd`s. S

 

What beggars belief is that you have not put 2 and 2 together and realised that the reason its cheaper is that council run facilities are funded by the council hence paid for by the taxpayer (working people (not forgetting those that have worked all their lives now retired)) and can run at a loss because of subsidies.. and so BazJ was correct in everything he said.

[Dizzy]

Saw the story on North West TV News last night.

 

Whilst I agree that creche and nursery provision is often important I don't think that the three mothers 'protesting over the closure actually did their cause much good Where was everyone else

 

If there are only on average 36 kids a week attending across the three facilities in total then I must admit that maybe the council are right on this one.

 

A ?40k council subsidy is a lot of money just to allow a few mums who don't have to work the ability to socialise and excercise during the day time.

 

Best solution would be either for a private investor to run the creches or the mums to have a rota system where they looked after each others kids for an hour..... or maybe the mums could run the creche's themselves

 

I can see why they are slightly annoyed though given that the council are talking about spending a similar amount on Street entertainment in Warrington.

[observer]

Where I was coming from, was this: these women were claiming they needed to " keep fit" and at the same time find a safe place to dump their sprogs. I'm merely making the obvious observation that by simply walking ( EG to school with the kids, instead of using a car) is a form of exercise. Most other forms of exercise can be done on the spot in the home at no expense - so what's the problem. I recall a young lady once telling me how she regularly attented a private Gym -Q. "oh yeh, and what do you do at the Gym?" A. "I go on the walk/run machine". Q. "and how do you get to the Gym?" A. "In my car" - now sort that one out!